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10 Nov 2010   #11
A320

Win 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ivan the SoSo View Post
You will lose trim support with raid....
How do I check if TRIM is on now?


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10 Nov 2010   #12
Airbot

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

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we need to verify that TRIM is active. At a command prompt (start/run/cmd), type the following:

fsutil.exe behavior query DisableDeleteNotify

It should respond back with DisableDeleteNotify=0 if trim support is ready and active.
If it is not, type:

fsutil.exe behavior set DisableDeleteNotify 0
SSD Tweaks and Optimizations in Windows 7
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10 Nov 2010   #13
swarfega

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

Could this thread be stickied for its useful advice?

I am getting an ssd this month. I have decided on the OCZ Vertex 2E 120gb with a speed of 285mb/s. I think Im going to be in shock when I experience it!

I am also getting the Seagate Momentus XT 500gb hybrid drive for my D: drive.

One thing SSD users should do is disable pagefile and the windows defrag scheduler.
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10 Nov 2010   #14
A320

Win 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Airbot View Post
Quote:
we need to verify that TRIM is active. At a command prompt (start/run/cmd), type the following:

fsutil.exe behavior query DisableDeleteNotify

It should respond back with DisableDeleteNotify=0 if trim support is ready and active.
If it is not, type:

fsutil.exe behavior set DisableDeleteNotify 0
SSD Tweaks and Optimizations in Windows 7
Thanks! I forgot but I had actually already followed that guide and done this!

So are these no's fairly good for an Intel X25-M?


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11 Nov 2010   #15
A320

Win 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ivan the SoSo View Post
You will lose trim support with raid....
What about this?

Intel release TRIM for RAID | bit-tech.net
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11 Nov 2010   #16
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by swarfega View Post
One thing SSD users should do is disable pagefile and the windows defrag scheduler.
Windows Defrag, YES.

Pagefile, No.

If you want to conserve space on the SSD, I would make a small 500MB or so on the SSD, and a main/regular PF on a secondary drive.
But not disable it entirely.

I also disable and delete the Hibernate file.
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11 Nov 2010   #17
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by rap33042 View Post
I've read that two of these suckers in a RAID-0 setup really rocks but I can't afford it right now.
It really boosts your sustained read speeds......but that isn't primarily the reason that SSD's are so fast. SSD's are fast because of very low (0.1ms) random access times. Those don't improve with a RAID0 setup. An extremely fast sequential read speed isn't that important for your OS drive as you deal primarily with small reads and writes.

I'd suggest at least 80GB for the OS drive. You don't want to just run the OS from this drive, but as many programs and games as possible. Games for example, really take advantage of that sequential read speeds as they often do load very large files. I'd say game load times are the biggest bang for the buck that I get out of my SSD.

I've got the 80GB intel X25-M G2. I keep a light load on my box and a game or two...and I'm usually around 40+ GB free.
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11 Nov 2010   #18
Airbot

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by A320 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ivan the SoSo View Post
You will lose trim support with raid....
What about this?

Intel release TRIM for RAID | bit-tech.net

Think that article is incorrect. Doesn't pass the trim command to ssd drives in RAID. If there was trim with a raid setup, it would be all over the place in a matter of days. Read all the comments on the article, specifically the one by XeroNXS.
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11 Nov 2010   #19
A320

Win 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Hmmm not sure what I'm doing wrong but I'm already at half left with no games and I just did a fresh install!

To be fair, I have 2 video editors + music production software so maybe that's where I'm losing my space so quickly.

I have moved the windows TEMP file, and the workable folders for the video editors to another drive, deleted my hibernation file.

I'd like to install a game or two as well to try out the performance.

So "pparks1" from what you're saying, setting up a RAID0 in my case would only yield noticeable differences when doing longer loads for instance like a game or MS Flight Simulator, but loading up my browsers, video software, media monkey, etc, won't happen any quicker because random access times (the short bursts) won't change much?
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11 Nov 2010   #20
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by A320 View Post
So "pparks1" from what you're saying, setting up a RAID0 in my case would only yield noticeable differences when doing longer loads for instance like a game or MS Flight Simulator, but loading up my browsers, video software, media monkey, etc, won't happen any quicker because random access times (the short bursts) won't change much?
Yes, that's what I am saying. I've used RAID setups in the past when dealing with very large files and video files. So, for example, if I copy a 25GB AVI file from C:\folder1 to C:\folder2...on a RAID0 config...the difference is substantial. So, in storage situations...these increased sustained throughput numbers really matter.

But for your OS and most apps you open...they are very small random reads. Thus, it's the random access times of 0.1ms across the entire SSD drive which provides the huge benefit. This number is not going to decrease in a RAID0 array.
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