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Windows 7: What is that?Is that a hard disk?

04 Dec 2010   #41
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

panais. I suggest you go the easy way as I have done with 3 SSD installations.

1. drop the SSD in and install Windows7 as you would on any other Sata disk. Just make sure all other HDDs are physically disconnected. Else you may get some unwanted effects with the MBR.
2. When w7 runs, check to make sure that Defrag is disabled (it should be from the installer) and Superfetch is set to automatic (better for performance)
3. Optionally you can delete the hiberfile if you do not use hibernation. Saves you some SSD space. The command is powercfg -h off

That is all I ever did. More elaborate tweaks might give you a 1 or 2% better performance, but you will not notice the difference. Chances are only that you muck it up. That's why I always refrain from those tweaks.


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04 Dec 2010   #42
panais

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
panais. I suggest you go the easy way as I have done with 3 SSD installations.

1. drop the SSD in and install Windows7 as you would on any other Sata disk. Just make sure all other HDDs are physically disconnected. Else you may get some unwanted effects with the MBR.
2. When w7 runs, check to make sure that Defrag is disabled (it should be from the installer) and Superfetch is set to automatic (better for performance)
3. Optionally you can delete the hiberfile if you do not use hibernation. Saves you some SSD space. The command is powercfg -h off

That is all I ever did. More elaborate tweaks might give you a 1 or 2% better performance, but you will not notice the difference. Chances are only that you muck it up. That's why I always refrain from those tweaks.
OK i will buy Corsair Force Series F120 - Solid state drive - 120 GB,maybe tomorow.
http://www.corsair.com/products/ssd_force/default.aspx
I hope I'm making a good choice.
And i hope my pc hardwares,cpu,ram etc are capable to handle and use all the speed of it.
PLEASE Tell me ur opinion about this (read my specs) i hope my hardwares are not a bottleneck!
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And i have some more answers.
I worry about my ga-x38-ds4,i dont trust this motherboard because i had some compatibility issues(my ga-x38-ds4 cannot accept ram more than 800mhz speed and when i install 1066mhz ram i get an endless reboot)This is the only thing i really worried,the motherboard is crazy,anyway this is not a ram is just a hard disk and i never had any problems with that.So i hope everything will go fine.
Second i always use 3 hard disks C:\ D:\ E:\ and cdrom F:\
And i like my hard disks in that order C:\ D:\ E:\ and cdrom F:\
If i have only the ssd and the cdrom the cdrom will named as D:\
Is there any trick when i finish insatlling win7 to set my hard disks in that order?
C:\ D:\ E:\ and cdrom F:\
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04 Dec 2010   #43
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Your hardware is perfect. In fact have an OCZ Vertex on nearly the same system (Q6600, 4GBs RAM) and it works perfectly. I would not think that your mobo will have a problem with the SSD. The SSD esentially behaves like any old Sata disk.
As far as the numbering of your partitions goes, you can chose the letters in Disk Management. I would not predefine those partitions because then you also have to worry about the alignment of the SSD - the Win7 installer will take care of that automatically. You may, however, end up with an additional 100MB active boot partition. That is no problem and the normal win7 procedure. You should only watch that your additional partitions are logical partitions (not primary partitions) because of the NTFS limit of 4 primaries. If you need further help on that, let us know.
Also, Disk Management may not let you shrink C as much as you want (because of the MFT in the midle of C that DM cannot move). In that case you should use Partition Wizard which can move the MFT.
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04 Dec 2010   #44
spyknee

W7 Ulti/64, XP Pro/32
 
 

I have no practical knowledge of Corsairs SSD's, so no opinion. Corsair is a quality company, I'm sure its a good SSD.

I do not know the technical reason for choosing port 5 over 4 for rom. Its considered the way to do installs of OS to SSD. About keeping hardware config simple. After install is up and running you could replug it to a different port. Plug in your other drives in the sequence you want recognized, plug rom last. Or manually change them in disk managment.

More than likely, you will not have any issues. But when there are issues, these things are what people are saying to do. I read up before my attempt. Did what the OCZ forum suggested for my Vertex. I have used my hardware config for W7 RC1 and now W 7 retail.
0% issues in 2 years thru 2 OS installs.
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04 Dec 2010   #45
panais

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1
 
 

Ok thats how my hard disks looks now in Disk Management.
Are connected in motherboard in that order:
C:\ is on port 0
D:\ is on port 1
E:\ is on port 2
F:\cdrom is on port 3
I dont know why D:\ shows as Disk 2 and why E:\ shows as Disk 1.
Any ideas?


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04 Dec 2010   #46
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Hmm, maybe they are not on the ports you think they are. And sorry I gave you all that sermon about partitions. I did not know those were actual different disks (often people call partition=disks, but you knew better).
What's funny is that it reserved 500MBs for the active partition. Normally that is 100MBs. But given the space you have, that should be no problem. Just make sure not to play with that partition, else you may not able to boot.
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04 Dec 2010   #47
panais

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Hmm, maybe they are not on the ports you think they are. And sorry I gave you all that sermon about partitions. I did not know those were actual different disks (often people call partition=disks, but you knew better).
What's funny is that it reserved 500MBs for the active partition. Normally that is 100MBs. But given the space you have, that should be no problem. Just make sure not to play with that partition, else you may not able to boot.
My box is always open and i just check they are in the correct port.
I dont know,i dont find any logical reason.(as i said my mobo is CRAZY)
whs think maybe you find something.
(The System Reserved is big 500mb because i increase the size with the partition magic for an old backup issue,the story...with bitdefender installed when i was trying to create a system image (Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Backup and Restore) i had the error <<not enouph size for backup,something like that, so i increase it)and yes was bitdefender conflict,
Nevermind now i use norton ghost an im happy with it.
And in 2 days i will change the hard disk and i will format without the other disks to see what will happen.
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04 Dec 2010   #48
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Type msinfo32 into the Start/search field and hit Enter. Then open (the little + fields in front) Components > Storage and double click on Disks. Then look in the right pane which SCSI bus is given for your disks.

You can also open an elevated Command Prompt and type Diskpart > hit Enter, then List Disk > hit Enter. What does this say?
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04 Dec 2010   #49
panais

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Type msinfo32 into the Start/search field and hit Enter. Then open (the little + fields in front) Components > Storage and double click on Disks. Then look in the right pane which SCSI bus is given for your disks.

You can also open an elevated Command Prompt and type Diskpart > hit Enter, then List Disk > hit Enter. What does this say?
Here they are...


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04 Dec 2010   #50
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Too bad, you cannot tell D and E apart because they are the same size.
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