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Windows 7: LGA 1366 or LGA 2011 or LGA 1155

13 Mar 2011   #21
essenbe

Windows 10 Pro/ Windows 10 Pro Insider
 
 

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My understanding was that the new AMD chips were supposed to be 50% faster than current offerings, but only matching what Intel already has available. I've never hear that it's going to be 25% faster.
The truth is that no one really knows what Bulldozer will be like. According to some articles, AMD claims that it is 50% faster than the i7-950 and if their claims hold up (which they usually don't), it will be faster than the i7-980X.
AMD Says Bulldozer Is 50% Faster than Core i7 CPUs [UPDATED] - Softpedia

I guess we will just wait to see what it's like and if AMD is really going to release it this time. However, I would think with the latest Intel 2nd generation release, AMD is going to have to release something.


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13 Mar 2011   #22
SlackerITGuy

Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
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My understanding was that the new AMD chips were supposed to be 50% faster than current offerings, but only matching what Intel already has available. I've never hear that it's going to be 25% faster.
The truth is that no one really knows what Bulldozer will be like. According to some articles, AMD claims that it is 50% faster than the i7-950 and if their claims hold up (which they usually don't), it will be faster than the i7-980X.
AMD Says Bulldozer Is 50% Faster than Core i7 CPUs [UPDATED] - Softpedia

I guess we will just wait to see what it's like and if AMD is really going to release it this time. However, I would think with the latest Intel 2nd generation release, AMD is going to have to release something.
Fake article is fake.

They took that silly "50% faster than Core i7 CPUs" from this slide right here.

http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/...Detailed-3.jpg

A couple of things pop out immediately.

1. They have the 1100T performing right on par with the i7 950.
2. i7 950 is LGA 1156?
3. The use of "epic performance".
4. "First and only native 8 core processor"?
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13 Mar 2011   #23
SlackerITGuy

Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

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I'd go for LGA 1155.

Why?


You won't have to wait for LGA 2011, might take a while, Q4 2011, maybe even 2012.
I'd wager that Q1 2012 is more likely for all the board manufacturers to have their offerings available. Even then prices are going to at a premium for a while after that.

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CPU's are crazy fast, per clock performance up to around ~5% vs 1st generation Core i5/i7 CPUs.
That they are.



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OC potential through the roof.
I suspect that 2011 chips will be just as good in that area.

The only real limitation is the lack of hex/octo core chips and the x8/x8 limitation of the P67 chipset and even then the performance hit isn't really that bad.

Personally I can afford to wait until the 2011 socket is released because I'm already on 1366 - but if I were to go from 775 today, it would be to 1155 and not 1366.

Buy a 'cheaper' 1155 board, a 2500k or 2600k and decent GPU and you can afford to coast along quite happily until the inevitable board/chip revisions of 2011 come along. By that time, the next gen of GPU's will hopefully be around the corner and then you can go hog wild with a kick ass overkill rig

Either way you go, both sockets, 1155 or 1366, are still going to deliver good performance for quite a while yet.
Agreed.

You really can't go wrong with either platform.

But LGA 1155 has to be the choice here, faster CPUs, compatibility with Ivy Bridge, etc...
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13 Mar 2011   #24
Sp3c5

7 Ultimate 64Bit
 
 

Ivy bridge socket 1155 correct but having an integrated GPU and more NB functions shift to the CPU, a new socket 1155 mobo is definitely in order since they will most likely have a new chipset design. So having a current 1155 does not guarantee Ivy Bridge compatible. This is what I assume.

Oh Intel, what next?
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13 Mar 2011   #25
SlackerITGuy

Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Sp3c5 View Post
Ivy bridge socket 1155 correct but having an integrated GPU and more NB functions shift to the CPU, a new socket 1155 mobo is definitely in order since they will most likely have a new chipset design. So having a current 1155 does not guarantee Ivy Bridge compatible. This is what I assume.

Oh Intel, what next?
Wow, you know what?

After reading a couple of articles about Ivy Bridge, it's very clear that while they will use the same pin out/socket as Sandy Bridge, they'll need a new chipset (7 series chipsets), so I guess you're 100% correct here.

That sucks because the article I read a while back said that current LGA 1155 motherboards would be able to run Ivy Bridge CPUs.



-1 for LGA 1155 lol
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13 Mar 2011   #26
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I don't really find it surprising that all these new chips require new sockets. Intel knows that the overwhelming majority of us enthusiats will upgrade our chips regardless of whether we really need to it or not. And since they supply mobo components as well, might as well sell a new mobo which you are at it.
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13 Mar 2011   #27
Wordsworth

Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
I don't really find it surprising that all these new chips require new sockets. Intel knows that the overwhelming majority of us enthusiats will upgrade our chips regardless of whether we really need to it or not. And since they supply mobo components as well, might as well sell a new mobo which you are at it.
Precisely, which is why I don't try to keep up with the latest technology from Intel anymore. Been there, done that, bought the t-shirt.

My next Intel chip will be the 970 Gulftown later this year popped into my current 1366. This system is going for awhile.
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13 Mar 2011   #28
Sp3c5

7 Ultimate 64Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SlackerITGuy View Post

But LGA 1155 has to be the choice here, faster CPUs, compatibility with Ivy Bridge, etc...
I assume your opinion slightly changes?

Agreed, it really does suck :/
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13 Mar 2011   #29
SlackerITGuy

Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Sp3c5 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SlackerITGuy View Post

But LGA 1155 has to be the choice here, faster CPUs, compatibility with Ivy Bridge, etc...
I assume your opinion slightly changes?

Agreed, it really does suck :/
Slightly.

But still, as of right now, Sandy Bridge is still the platform to upgrade to if you're coming from LGA 775 or AM2+/AM3.

CPU's are just that good mate.

I have an Intel Core i5-2500K myself, and this thing pwns everything I throw at it.

@ $220 it's price performance ratio is just crazy awesome.
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13 Mar 2011   #30
SlackerITGuy

Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
I don't really find it surprising that all these new chips require new sockets. Intel knows that the overwhelming majority of us enthusiats will upgrade our chips regardless of whether we really need to it or not. And since they supply mobo components as well, might as well sell a new mobo which you are at it.
Yup.

Makes perfect sense.
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