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Windows 7: Intel X25-M 120GB SSD - Deactivated on Newegg

29 Mar 2011   #11
Wordsworth

Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
 
 

I notice rather than SATA II, etc. the common terms used are SATA 3.0Gbps, etc. Makes sense as it's more specific.

With this mobo, the SATA 3.0Gbps 300GB catches my eye as a possible upgrade when the next gen comes out and the price gets cut in half.


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29 Mar 2011   #12
essenbe

Windows 10 Pro/ Windows 10 Pro Insider
 
 

I'll throw my two cents in. I don't believe you will notice much difference between the G2 and G3. Even the rated speeds are quite similar. My G2 80GB Intel is rated 250/70 the G3 is rated 270/90. That really is not noticible in real world OS operation. I also own the G2 Vertex2 90GB which is rated faster than the G3 Intel. The G2 OCZ is rated 285/275. I have twice set up identical tests after secure erase, alignment and formatting with identical software and hardware. If you look at the numbers of the benchmarks, you would think there is a big difference. In my useage there really is no difference. Personally, I prefer the Intel, but only because of subtile differences. I use both and in actual useage there is no difference. Here are the results of my latest test, but that is why I think benchmarks are only for bragging rites or to keep some people employed. Real world they are the same.
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30 Mar 2011   #13
Wordsworth

Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
 
 

If I do upgrade to a Gen 3 it'd be for a larger capacity, as I wouldn't disagree with the real world argument. On my system real world performance differences between even the WD Black Caviar (BC) and the Intel SSD are both great and small. The BC booted in 65 seconds, the SSD does it in 41, no tweaks for either time. The SSD also goes to sleep or shutdown right now, where the BC took, depending upon how long the uptime, 10-15 seconds to do either, again no tweaks. Installing Windows and applications was fast, and I notice a speed difference when installing large updates. These differences I think are great.

The small differences would be with Office apps for example. The BC opened Word, Excel, or Powerpoint almost instantaneously, the SSD instantaneously. A difference yes, but this small difference was to be expected as I'd have to go back to my Pentium III for any real wait time opening MS Office apps. So I won't upgrade to another generation of SSD except for a larger capacity; that I could see paying out some money for, but not any speed difference claimed in benchmarks which I may not notice in real world use.
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30 Mar 2011   #14
essenbe

Windows 10 Pro/ Windows 10 Pro Insider
 
 

Wordsworth, I don't disagree with you on buying a G3 for better performance. I don't think you will see much. However, I do think you should see better performance from your SSD than you are seeing. I have a WD Cavier 1002FAEX drive also. That is where my OS was installed before I got my SSD. There was a great difference in performance. I can show you benchmarks if you like, but the only benchmark that makes a real world difference is access time IMO. My WD access time was 13.19ms My intel access time was 0.108ms. That is a significant difference. My reboot time (shut down and start up) is 29sec. My only point here is I think you should be seeing better performance.
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30 Mar 2011   #15
Dave76

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Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

Agree with both of you, the differences in SSDs are generally just what you can see in benchmarks.

If you have a 'fast' SSD next to a computer with a 'slow' SSD, I don't think you would see much difference.
It's all down to benchmarks and something for people to argue about.

I do notice the difference between my systems with HDDs and the one with the SSD. They are generally faster, guess it all depends on how impatient you are.

Everyone is waiting for the prices to drop some more, then they can get one or a bigger one.
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30 Mar 2011   #16
essenbe

Windows 10 Pro/ Windows 10 Pro Insider
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dave76 View Post
Agree with both of you, the differences in SSDs are generally just what you can see in benchmarks.

If you have a 'fast' SSD next to a computer with a 'slow' SSD, I don't think you would see much difference.
It's all down to benchmarks and something for people to argue about.

I do notice the difference between my systems with HDDs and the one with the SSD. They are generally faster, guess it all depends on how impatient you are.

Everyone is waiting for the prices to drop some more, then they can get one or a bigger one.
Dave, patience is not one of my virtues.
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30 Mar 2011   #17
Dave76

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

We have that in common
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30 Mar 2011   #18
Wordsworth

Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
Wordsworth, I don't disagree with you on buying a G3 for better performance. I don't think you will see much. However, I do think you should see better performance from your SSD than you are seeing. I have a WD Cavier 1002FAEX drive also. That is where my OS was installed before I got my SSD. There was a great difference in performance. I can show you benchmarks if you like, but the only benchmark that makes a real world difference is access time IMO. My WD access time was 13.19ms My intel access time was 0.108ms. That is a significant difference. My reboot time (shut down and start up) is 29sec. My only point here is I think you should be seeing better performance.
The access time you give on the SSD, is that read or write? AS SSD reports 0.086ms read, and 0.116ms for write on my Intel. On the WD Black Caviar HDTune reports 13.0ms for access time. I have then the great access time difference you speak of where the benchmarks are concerned. The boot time difference we have will differ of course with hardware/software but I do see a significant difference there on my box.

I'm not complaining about the performance, but as both you and Dave have said, patience is not my greatest virtue. I recall Bill Gates speaking in the mid 90s of instant on computers, well I want one NOW! THIS INSTANT!
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30 Mar 2011   #19
essenbe

Windows 10 Pro/ Windows 10 Pro Insider
 
 

As far as access times.
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As far as the instant on computers. When you find them, get 2 I'll buy one from you!

BTW, you have a 120GB I believe. I think you'll find they have better specs than the 80GB I have. You should get better results than me.


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30 Mar 2011   #20
Wordsworth

Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
 
 

I should have seen your earlier post before with the test results. Anyway, I posted in the SSD speed thread but I'll post here also; my results are nearly the same as Dave's so I don't think I'm missing anything in performance unless we both are.


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