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Windows 7: Just looking before I leap...new PC final thoughts.

21 Apr 2011   #151
Dave76

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Agree with the above, especially the SSD checks.
Check your BIOS version, no need to update unless you have issues that you can't fix any other way, so it is best to leave that as it is. An un-successful BIOS flash will leave your motherboard unusable.

I would make the System Restore size smaller than default.

With 8GB RAM I would make the page file smaller as well, keep it on the SSD, reduce the initial size to 1024 and max 2048.

Let us know if you have any crashes or issues related to RAM, with 8GB RAM you might need to make a small CPU integrated memory controller voltage bump.


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22 Apr 2011   #152
GARoss

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
Get Windows updated, get antivirus going. Confirm defrag is turned off for your SSD. Confirm alignment of the SSD. Check System Restore config as it eats up a lot of space. Probably turn off hibernation to save space on the SSD if you don't use hibernation.
Apparently, Win 7 recognizes the SSD & it isn't on the defrag list - see pic. I don't believe this needs to be turned off.

I use Microsoft Security Essentials for antivirus which is up & running.

"Confirm alignment of the SSD" - I'm not sure what this is. Doing a Google to find out.

Check System Restore; on or off?

I was using hibernation before after being idol 30 minutes.

BTW - my main storage HDD isn't working! I've tried various combos but it appears to be dead. I'm pretty sure I have a back-up stored away. I hope so! Don't know how else to check it.


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22 Apr 2011   #153
ignatzatsonic

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
Get Windows updated, get antivirus going. Confirm defrag is turned off for your SSD. Confirm alignment of the SSD. Check System Restore config as it eats up a lot of space. Probably turn off hibernation to save space on the SSD if you don't use hibernation.
Apparently, Win 7 recognizes the SSD & it isn't on the defrag list - see pic. I don't believe this needs to be turned off.

"Confirm alignment of the SSD" - I'm not sure what this is. Doing a Google to find out.

Check System Restore; on or off?

BTW - my main storage HDD isn't working! I've tried various combos but it appears to be dead. I'm pretty sure I have a back-up stored away. I hope so! Don't know how else to check it.
Verify the alignment for a SSD using the following commands from a prompt:

Diskpart
List disk
Select disk n (where n is the number of the SSD)
List partition

You should see a result like this:

Partition 1 Primary 59 GB 1024 KB

The offset has to be divisible by 4.

In this case, 1024 is the offset and is divisible by 4, so you are good to go.

Re defrag: you just want to be sure that C is not being defragged.

Re system restore; you want it on. Go to control panel/system/system protection and poke the "configure" button to see how much space is devoted to it. You can move the slider to change the setting. A setting of 10 GB should allow at least 10 restore points. How many you want is personal choice, but in the real world you rarely want to restore to a 2 week old point. Usually, you want to restore to one no more than 3 or 4 days old. I use a setting of 8, but it's up to you. If you had a real small SSD, you'd probably want to keep it quite low.

Re hibernation: it takes up quite a bit of space too, but no problem if you want to use it.


Did you get AHCI enabled in the BIOS??????????
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22 Apr 2011   #154
ignatzatsonic

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BTW - my main storage HDD isn't working! I've tried various combos but it appears to be dead. I'm pretty sure I have a back-up stored away. I hope so! Don't know how else to check it.
Does the storage HDD appear in Disk Management?

Before I gave up on it, I would connect any other drive you may have and see if you can access it. You need to eliminate the possibility of a bad cable or a bad motherboard port, as well as a bad drive.
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22 Apr 2011   #155
GARoss

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
Does the storage HDD appear in Disk Management?

Before I gave up on it, I would connect any other drive you may have and see if you can access it. You need to eliminate the possibility of a bad cable or a bad motherboard port, as well as a bad drive.
No to disk management; just C: & E: .

I've switched cables & plug positions on MB, power connectors, too. Nothing.

Both storage drives were the same make & size. Really odd that transfering could mess it up. I mean, nothing was bumped into, took precautions to avoid static discharge, etc. Weird!

Could it be a setting in BIOS?
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22 Apr 2011   #156
ignatzatsonic

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Not sure I am following you.

You have 1 spinning drive that is not being recognized.

Are you saying that another spinning drive, when connected to the same cables and same port, is recognized?

Regardless, post a Disk Management picture with the "bad" drive connected.
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22 Apr 2011   #157
GARoss

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

Wow! This is really weird. After my last post I checked Disk Management/Action/Refresh but nothing changed. Then tried Disk Management/Action/Rescan Disks & it appeared! Hallelujah!

On to lots of Windows updates.


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22 Apr 2011   #158
GARoss

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post

Re system restore; you want it on. Go to control panel/system/system protection and poke the "configure" button to see how much space is devoted to it. You can move the slider to change the setting. A setting of 10 GB should allow at least 10 restore points. How many you want is personal choice, but in the real world you rarely want to restore to a 2 week old point. Usually, you want to restore to one no more than 3 or 4 days old. I use a setting of 8, but it's up to you. If you had a real small SSD, you'd probably want to keep it quite low.

Did you get AHCI enabled in the BIOS??????????
I enabled AHCI in BIOS before installing Windows 7. Are we good or is more needed to be done?

See pic of Diskpart. I think it's the same as yours.

Looks like default is 10% of total or 1.26Gb ( C: is 128Gb). " I use a setting of 8, but it's up to you." Do you mean 8Gb?


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22 Apr 2011   #159
ignatzatsonic

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Your alignment per diskpart is OK. You can also check this way: type msinfo32 into start/search and hit Enter. Then in the left pane open Components, then Storage and go to Disks. There you can see the offset when you scroll down to the relevant drive. You want it divisible by 4.

Yes, I meant 8 GB; that usually gives me about 10 restore points dating back a couple of weeks. You can set it at 8 GB if you want and of course can change it at any time. It’s all a matter of how scarce space is on your SSD and I think you have plans to put some data on it??

You should be done on the AHCI thing. You can check it in the BIOS where it is listed under “SATA controller” or something like that. I can’t remember exactly.

Same thing with hibernation. No problem keeping it enabled if space is not an issue, but I think it takes up 8 GB (same as RAM) in your case.

You should be able to read your BIOS version in the tweaker’s section of the BIOS (MIT or whatever it is called?).

I’d run Windows Experience Index as a check to see that stuff is performing about as expected.

Look in BIOS “PC Health” to see what fans are being monitored and what their speeds are. You should be able to check temps there too.

Or use HWinfo32 to check speeds and temps in Windows, without going to BIOS.
Any readings yet on how quiet it is? My Shuriken fan is normally in the high 800s at idle, but yours might be different based on your internal temps.
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22 Apr 2011   #160
GARoss

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

Here's HWinfo32 info & Windows Experience Index. ???

Overall this PC is much quieter than the old one. I can definitely hear the rear fan. It has 3 speeds & is set to "HI" per user manual recommendations. Like to turn that down if possible.


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