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Windows 7: Just looking before I leap...new PC final thoughts.

28 Apr 2011   #191
GARoss

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dave76 View Post
That is a nice SSD ignatzatsonic, have you ran the Intel SSD Tool Box?

It will do the SSD tweaks for you, then you can look the others if you want to tweak further.

Make sure defrag is turned off for the SSD, the Tool Box will do that for you.

Here is my boot time:
Attachment 151667

Minimal tweaks
I didn't understand that this was Intel only software. According to Crucial their SSDs don't need this, that it's built-in. Is that possible? Toolbox/optimizer for C300? - Crucial Community


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28 Apr 2011   #192
Wordsworth

Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
Incidentally---I had to do the registry hack to activate Windows--even though I did not have to in all other clean installs with the same disk and product key. Strange.
I've used the registry hack before but prefer the built in Software License Manager.

Elevated command prompt:
slmgr -ipk product key
enter
slmgr -ato
enter
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28 Apr 2011   #193
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by GARoss View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dave76 View Post
That is a nice SSD ignatzatsonic, have you ran the Intel SSD Tool Box?

It will do the SSD tweaks for you, then you can look the others if you want to tweak further.

Make sure defrag is turned off for the SSD, the Tool Box will do that for you.

Here is my boot time:
Attachment 151667

Minimal tweaks
I didn't understand that this was Intel only software. According to Crucial their SSDs don't need this, that it's built-in. Is that possible? Toolbox/optimizer for C300? - Crucial Community
Most of the anxiety about SSDs is "wearing them out" over time since the memory cells have a finite number of writes they can tolerate.

But everything I read says that the anxiety is over-rated and that any of the respected brands will last more than long enough in any typical situation. I think there is a lot of marketing mumbo-jumbo in there too in an attempt to gain market share.

The only negative I have heard about Crucial drives is that there is a phenomenon referred to as "stuttering" on some examples. I don't know how widespread it is or if it is a major issue. I just read about it in the last week. As far as I know, the 300 models have a good rep overall.
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29 Apr 2011   #194
Dave76

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

The Intel Tool Box is mentioned in many SSD reviews as being a very useful tool, afaik other SSD companies don't have a SSD tool.

A tool like this would benefit all SSDs, but they don't have one as of yet. What else can they say besides you don't need one, although I would say not having a SSD tool is not a deal breaker, it's nice to have but not a requirement.

When you install Win7 to a SSD it will do all the basic SSD settings, the others you might want are the ones I listed previously.
The Gen1 SSDs needed a lot of tweaks to optimize them, but after Gen2 not much is needed.

The Crucial had a FW stumble when they were first released but that was quickly fixed and they have been very good since then. They rate very high in the various show us your benchmark threads.
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02 May 2011   #195
GARoss

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

So far, so good with my new PC. Although the temps seem good, I decided to add 2 more fans. What attracted me to the Cool Master was the fact that it will fit properly into the PWR_FAN2 connector. Sound levels my be higher than the quietest fans but better than the included case fan. The other Nexus fan matches the front fan.

Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER R4-BMBS-20PK-R0 Blade Master 120mm Case Fan

Newegg.com - Nexus DF1209SL-3 92mm Case Fan
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03 May 2011   #196
sandman

Window's 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Very good info about fans and wiring enjoy. I good hooked on Noctua and Scythe for my cases.
Recommended Fans | silentpcreview.com
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04 May 2011   #197
GARoss

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sandman View Post
Very good info about fans and wiring enjoy. I good hooked on Noctua and Scythe for my cases.
Recommended Fans | silentpcreview.com
Good read, thanks.

I'm wondering; is there a recommended max CPU temperature? I have BIOS setup to sound a warning if temp exceeds 60 degrees C. The highest I've monitored was 57C during a video render.
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04 May 2011   #198
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

You ought to run Prime 95 or some load test program to see how hot your CPU might get in extreme circumstances as a test of your cooling setup. I get temps in the upper 60s with Prime 95. With the stock Intel heat sink, my temps were in the mid 70s. The CPU will deliberately throttle back if temps get too high to avoid damaging itself.

I'd guess your Prime 95 temps would be lower than mine because your ambient temp is around 70, maybe 5 degrees cooler than mine.

I've got my CPU warning set to sound off at 70. I'm not sure of the temp at which throttling occurs, but the processor is rated at 95 watts TDP.
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04 May 2011   #199
GARoss

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by GARoss View Post
So far, so good with my new PC. Although the temps seem good, I decided to add 2 more fans. What attracted me to the Cool Master was the fact that it will fit properly into the PWR_FAN2 connector. Sound levels my be higher than the quietest fans but better than the included case fan. The other Nexus fan matches the front fan.

Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER R4-BMBS-20PK-R0 Blade Master 120mm Case Fan

Newegg.com - Nexus DF1209SL-3 92mm Case Fan
As expected, the Cooler Master R4 plugged into the PWR_FAN2 connector & seems at least as quiet as the Antec 3 speed set to low. I do, however, have a gripe. The wires are way too short. The only way I could install without the wires interfering with the Creative Audio board connected to PCI-1 was to rotate the fan counter clockwise 90 degrees & route the cable along the MB side near the PCI 1 & 2 connectors. The cables are not resting on any electronics or anything sharp. Another inch or two longer would of been perfect, IMHO.

I plugged the Nexus 92mm to the other, original Nexus 92mm fan's Molex connector. Hope that's alright.
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05 May 2011   #200
GARoss

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
You ought to run Prime 95 or some load test program to see how hot your CPU might get in extreme circumstances as a test of your cooling setup. I get temps in the upper 60s with Prime 95. With the stock Intel heat sink, my temps were in the mid 70s. The CPU will deliberately throttle back if temps get too high to avoid damaging itself.

I'd guess your Prime 95 temps would be lower than mine because your ambient temp is around 70, maybe 5 degrees cooler than mine.

I've got my CPU warning set to sound off at 70. I'm not sure of the temp at which throttling occurs, but the processor is rated at 95 watts TDP.
I don't have time today to run anything other than the Blend test. Because of time, I ran the test until it got to the 6th level. At that time the temperature was 59-62 degrees C max. I have changed BIOS to sound off at 70 C, not knowing what setting is best but it would seem about right.
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