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Windows 7: Intel vs amd

10 May 2011   #31
FredeGail

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate: x64 (SP1)
 
 

Intel all the way!


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10 May 2011   #32
MadSupra354

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
How could that be true if Intel typically outperforms AMD at each level? AMD serves one purpose right now....to keep Intel's prices down and their innovation up.
But AMD are cheaper than Intel. That's why allot of people choose them.
You can't get a 6 core from Intel for under £250 ($300)
Also, Intel aren't outperforming AMD in their price/performance.
Intel Core i7's are better than most of AMD's desktop CPU's because it has 6 threads, and Intel are equivalently 200MHz faster anyway. That's why some people choose to spend £50 ($80) more. (Excluding the motherboard price.)
P.S. I'm not biased in any way towards AMD. I support it but I'm happy for people with Intel.
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10 May 2011   #33
DeaconFrost

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MadSupra354 View Post
But AMD are cheaper than Intel. That's why allot of people choose them.
They have some cheaper processors way down at the bottom, but that doesn't mean they are better. If you truly lay the products down side by side, in almost ever category it is hard to make a case for AMD. Add that to the fact you can get a great price on an Intel chipset board from several reputable manufacturers, and that's a combo you can't beat for performance, easy of setup, and stability.

You also need to remember that a budget 6 core processor isn't always going to outperform a quad-core processor. You are just sipping the marketing juice AMD is serving. Look at unbiased, raw comparisons.

Also keep in mind I am talking about desktops here. On the laptop side, Intel owns the game completely. AMD makes some cheap budget mobile processors, but sit down and use one sometime. Painful.
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10 May 2011   #34
MadSupra354

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
On the laptop side, Intel owns the game completely. AMD makes some cheap budget mobile processors, but sit down and use one sometime. Painful.
What about AMD Fusion?
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10 May 2011   #35
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

The laptops running the Fusion technology are just hitting the market, so time will tell, but the Sandy Bridge laptops have been available for a little while now, so as has been the case, AMD is playing catch up.

You seem to be thinking I'm anti-AMD. I'm not, because competition benefits the consumer more than anything else. My point is, whenever I'm looking for new systems for my company, or building something new for a friend or family member....the best use of their $$$ is almost always an Intel based system, either for all out performance, or for performance on a budget.
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10 May 2011   #36
MadSupra354

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
The laptops running the Fusion technology are just hitting the market, so time will tell, but the Sandy Bridge laptops have been available for a little while now, so as has been the case, AMD is playing catch up.

You seem to be thinking I'm anti-AMD. I'm not, because competition benefits the consumer more than anything else. My point is, whenever I'm looking for new systems for my company, or building something new for a friend or family member....the best use of their $$$ is almost always an Intel based system, either for all out performance, or for performance on a budget.
I see. I might have built an Intel system but all I had was a quad core Athlon, and a pretty tight budget. And I can't switch motherboard just to get an Intel CPU, so I'll buy a 1055T.
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10 May 2011   #37
Capt.Jack Sparrow

Windows 7 Ultimate - 64-bit | Windows 8 Pro - 64-bit
 
 

Nice debate ... I heard Intel shipped Sandy Bridge Chipset faulty. Is that resolved now ?
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10 May 2011   #38
DeaconFrost

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MadSupra354 View Post
I see. I might have built an Intel system but all I had was a quad core Athlon, and a pretty tight budget. And I can't switch motherboard just to get an Intel CPU, so I'll buy a 1055T.
That's where cost comes in. It doesn't mean all AMD systems are crap. You were going for your best usage of money...nothing wrong with that.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Capt.Jack Sparrow View Post
Nice debate ... I heard Intel shipped Sandy Bridge Chipset faulty. Is that resolved now ?
It's been resolved for quite some time now, maybe even as much as two months. The chipset weren't compltely faulty, and likely wouldn't have caused issues for more than 1-2% of the systems running them. However, Intel worked quickly to resolve the issue, and so did the major board partners.
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10 May 2011   #39
Capt.Jack Sparrow

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
It's been resolved for quite some time now, maybe even as much as two months. The chipset weren't compltely faulty, and likely wouldn't have caused issues for more than 1-2% of the systems running them. However, Intel worked quickly to resolve the issue, and so did the major board partners.
That's good ...
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10 May 2011   #40
pparks1

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MadSupra354 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
How could that be true if Intel typically outperforms AMD at each level? AMD serves one purpose right now....to keep Intel's prices down and their innovation up.
But AMD are cheaper than Intel. That's why allot of people choose them.
Yes, some of them are.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MadSupra354 View Post
You can't get a 6 core from Intel for under £250 ($300)
So?

What if you can get an Intel for under $300 that is only a quad core, but it outperforms the 6 core from AMD. Just because it has more cores, doesn't mean it's faster;
PassMark Intel vs AMD CPU Benchmarks - High End

Look at the chart in the link above. The AMD 1100T 6 core ($210 from NewEgg), gets outperformed by the Intel Core i5-2500 ($210 from NewEgg).

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MadSupra354 View Post
Also, Intel aren't outperforming AMD in their price/performance.
Please see my above comments.
These two chips are very close, with the edge in performance going to Intel, and they are exactly the same price.
Newegg.com - Intel Core i5-2500 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500
Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban 3.3GHz, 3.7GHz Turbo 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDE00ZFBGRBOX
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