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Windows 7: RAMdisk - who uses it?

14 Apr 2011   #11
whs
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The smallest is 200MB I believe. But why put it on the spinner - it's not worth the trouble.

I only put the user folders on the spinner - and not even the default folders, but I make new folders that I INCLUDE into the respective library. That way I seperate system/program generated files (especially in Documents) from my own stuff.


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14 Apr 2011   #12
rap33042

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

My main purpose in life regarding SSDs is to eliminate as many writes to that drive as possible.
Also, because of their cost, I want to utilize that space in an efficient manner.
For that reason I move the Pagefile; I don't us Hibernation, so I get rid of that, too.
Like you, I have my User files on a spinner as well.
I keep all my Programs, Data, and Games on the spinners.
I have all my Browser caches on a separate drive; along with the System, User, and Program Temp files.
In other words, I strive to keep only the OS on the SSD., and eliminate the rest of the clutter.

Another huge benefit is when doing backups. If for some reason my OS gets corrupted, it's a simple matter of restoring it and not worrying about all the other stuff. The backup is small, quickly made, and quickly restored.

This might seem like overkill to some, but in the end, any backup I make will easily fit on a single DVD.
If any one of my partitions gets messed up, I don't have to worry about all the others- they are isolated from each other.
I guess I just like it that way.
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14 Apr 2011   #13
whs
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I think that is a valid approach. I do not really worry about the writes to the SSD. By the time those things will wear out, I will probably have 4th gen SSDs. Without user files and the hiberfile my 80GB SSD on this system is using 33GBs - but I have system restore points enabled. On my other desktop it is about 25GBs - On the laptops it is more, but there we also have the user files.

Imaging the OS takes between 4 minutes and 25 minutes depending to which disk I image (I use 2 internal HDDs and 6 external HDs for the different systems) and depending which system it is (3 duo core and 2 quads). But that runs in the background and does not keep me from doing other things.

We have another laptop without an SSD up in NY that my wife uses when she is there. For her convenience, I have made an imaging partition on that one. But that Laptop is rarely being used and since I never go to NY, it had to be a setup that she can easily deal with.
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14 Apr 2011   #14
rap33042

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Your point regarding SSD writes is a valid one.

If I had things to do over again, I probably wouldn't be so extreme.
However, when I first got this SSD, there was a lot of hype on the internet in that regard; that's my excuse for being so anal about it.

When I get my next big SSD upgrade, I won't worry about it.

I have two of them now and I'm not looking back...

Addendum: There's a neat utility you might be interested in looking at called SSDLife.
Probably not very useful, but it's fun.
Check it out here: http://ssd-life.com/
NOTE: Check for the FREE version at the above link.

Enjoy!
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14 Apr 2011   #15
whs
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Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Did you ever try this program. Does it work for any SSD or only the C300. I have OCZs and Intels.

PS: Just tried it. Looks like the Intel on this system is OK. Woll check on my other systems later.


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14 Apr 2011   #16
rap33042

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

I see that TRIM is not enabled- that's not a good thing.
Windows 7 supports TRIM.

You should get the Intel SSD Toolbox to correct that.
You can get it here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Deta...&DwnldID=18455
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14 Apr 2011   #17
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

I'm assuming that you are thinking about using software to create the RAM disk on your regular RAM, but there is another possibility:

ACARD ANS9010B 5.25 Inch SATA-to-DDRII Ram Disk Up to 48GB (Ram Modul

Gigabyte GC-RAMDISK GC-RAMDISK 1.2 GC-RAMD Battery - 1400mAh

This is an expensive alternative, but with the battery it would eliminate the volatility issue (I think).
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14 Apr 2011   #18
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by rap33042 View Post
I see that TRIM is not enabled- that's not a good thing.
Windows 7 supports TRIM.

You should get the Intel SSD Toolbox to correct that.
You can get it here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Deta...&DwnldID=18455
Yeah, It is a Gen1 SSD which has no Trim. According to Atto, it is in the 280MB/sec for reads but only in the 70s for writes. I have had this thing for a while and got it for cheap. Except for my first Vertex (nearly 3 years ago), I never spent more than $150 for an SSD. Then I am not too sorry if I have to replace one.

BTW: It has been in the system since St. Patrick's day 2009. Here is when I put it in:


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14 Apr 2011   #19
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister View Post
I'm assuming that you are thinking about using software to create the RAM disk on your regular RAM, but there is another possibility:

ACARD ANS9010B 5.25 Inch SATA-to-DDRII Ram Disk Up to 48GB (Ram Modul

Gigabyte GC-RAMDISK GC-RAMDISK 1.2 GC-RAMD Battery - 1400mAh

This is an expensive alternative, but with the battery it would eliminate the volatility issue (I think).
Thank you very much for the suggestion. I already have a battery backup surge protector because I thought that's what you need in Florida. Turns out, we never have any power failures. And I would not use the RAMdisk to store important information. The worst that could happen would be a lost job that I would have to rerun.
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14 Apr 2011   #20
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

I was simply tossing it into the ring, but I didn't think that it would appeal, because I wouldn't want to go that route, due to the expense, but I'm not just thinking about power failures. There is always the possibility of a system crash. I don't know that this would preserve data through the crash and restart or not, but if designed properly it could. Still, if the data is not all that important, then this is irrelevant anyway.
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