Who do I believe - Windows or CPUZ

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  1. Posts : 26,869
    Windows 11 Pro
       #11

    On his screenshots, cpuz is reporting the exact amount that the OS shows is usable.
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  2. Posts : 7,683
    Windows 10 Pro
       #12

    essenbe said:
    On his screenshots, cpuz is reporting the exact amount that the OS shows is usable.
    That's not how it works - Memory/Ram

    And if he has 4gig installed, Windows should show all 4gig - not usage.

    Who do I believe - Windows or CPUZ-info.jpg

    And CPU-Z should be showing the same - 6gig....

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  3. Posts : 5,941
    Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
    Thread Starter
       #13

    Hi all
    This is a small Netbook -- in theory it actually says in the Spec that maximum RAM is 2GB -- but I suspect that was before the single 4GB modules appeared.

    BIOS and Windows seem to have no problem reading 4GB installed -- I'll try CPU_Z update and see what it says.

    MSINFO32.EXE also reports 4GB installed RAM.

    The netbook uses onboard graphics.

    I'm sure I'm probably considered as Bonkers by inserting a 4GB RAM module into a netbook but it was REALLY CHEAP so what's the harm -- also it allowed me to run a useful XP VM on it without a problem -- For an old scanner not supported on W7 but hardware still 100% OK and a quick application to burn / copy Audio CD's to Minidiscs (I'll bet a load of readers don't even know what those are -- but the sound is zillions times better than a highly compressed mp3 file on an Ipod).

    Actually I'm not worried about Useable RAM or whatever -=-it's just curious that CPU_Z shows a different value for INSTALLED RAM compared with MSINFO32.EXE or the Windows 7 computer properties.

    W7 appears to yield the correct result.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  4. Posts : 7,683
    Windows 10 Pro
       #14

    jimbo45 said:
    a quick application to burn / copy Audio CD's to Minidiscs (I'll bet a load of readers don't even know what those are -- but the sound is zillions times better than a highly compressed mp3 file on an Ipod).
    Hehe, not so fast - I just never used them myself :)

    Anyway thanks for posting the info on the netbook. Perhaps that's why CPU-Z is confused? Don't know.
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  5. Posts : 112
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
       #15

    AFAIK, cpuz shows single channel memory!! means
    2GB + 2GB each!! can you check if it has a drop down manu on Memory TAB
    this might show each channel has 2 GB!!
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  6. Posts : 26,869
    Windows 11 Pro
       #16

    I think the real question is where does cpuz get its information. If it gets it directly from the dimm slots, it should show what is actually installed. If it gets its information from the OS, it will only show what is usable by the OS, what the OS can 'see'. In the graphics presented the only difference is the properties tab. One showed installed and usable the other only showed installed. CPuz agreed with both of those. So, IT may work different than most of us (me included) always thought it worked. CPUz's website provided no information on that, and maybe this discussion only applies to x86 systems because of their memory limitations. I really don't know.
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  7. Posts : 7,683
    Windows 10 Pro
       #17

    Perhaps I'm not getting what you guys are saying but I think you need to have a closer look at the images I posted as they clearly shows (should show) the installed memory under Windows (not usable memory) - which corresponds to the Properties page of Windows - which corresponds to what the BIOS gives/shows.

    All you have to do is run a copy of CPU-Z and see for yourself

    BTW....

    Memory

    • SDR, DDR, DDR2, FB-DDR2, DDR3, RDRAM (Rambus®)
    • EPP and XMP extended profiles
    CPUID - System & hardware benchmark, monitoring, reporting

    Now, why is it messed up on Jimbo's netbook? It could be that the netbook isn't supported. Again, see link above.
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  8. Posts : 1,653
    Windows 10 Pro. EFI boot partition, full EFI boot
       #18

    essenbe said:
    Airbot said:
    jimbo45 said:
    so is there an INFALLIBLE test to see how much Windows is actually seeing and using.

    Yeah. It's called msinfo32.exe.

    Attachment 156160
    Yes. CPUz I believe. It is showing what windows is seeing. Cpuz is showing 2818MB of ram. If it was onlt\y showing 2GB it would be 2048MB. So, it is showing the amount windows is seeing as useable. Thats my opinion.
    CPU-Z gets it from the hardware. I doesn;t knows what windows has mapped - it is supposed to show the physical memory. It's a bug.
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  9. Posts : 26,869
    Windows 11 Pro
       #19

    GeneO, It may very well be a bug. I have always thought that cpuz got its info from the hardware also. But in the OP's original question, it is apparently not reading the hardware. My only point has been that it is either a bug or cpuz is getting its info from somewhere other than hardware. I am only saying, I don't know the answer.
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  10. Posts : 53
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
       #20

    You, for whatever reason, have 1.25GB memory mapped to something else. CPUZ will read the module's SPD information as it should, and it will report that you are using a 4GB module.

    Also, single channel vs. dual channel has absolutely nothing to do with this. 4GB single channel and 4GB dual channel are the same volume; dual channel just has twice the theoretical bandwidth.

    Check the SPD tab. It will report the stick's correct information.
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