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Windows 7: Need quick help about new hard disk partition on win 7 disk management

08 Jun 2011   #21
theog

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid View Post
This tutorial at the link below may help explain things for you.


Partition / Extended : Logical Drives
You asked Disk management too!!!
Have you read the above?

The OS partition needs to be no less than 100gb.


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08 Jun 2011   #22
IamLEGEND

Windows 7 SP1 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by theog View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid View Post
This tutorial at the link below may help explain things for you.


Partition / Extended : Logical Drives
You asked Disk management too!!!
Have you read the above?

The OS partition needs to be no less than 100gb.
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the above tutorial is very difficult for me,,,
and is it necessary to create OS partition is no less then 100gb.?
is this the cause for 3 partition is created primary,,?
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08 Jun 2011   #23
theog

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Using a 15gb partition & not a 100gb, is like try to sleep in a box, & not in bedroom.

Have a read of this:
SSD / HDD : Optimize for Windows Reinstallation
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08 Jun 2011   #24
IamLEGEND

Windows 7 SP1 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by theog View Post
Using a 15gb partition & not a 100gb, is like try to sleep in a box, & not in bedroom.

Have a read of this:
SSD / HDD : Optimize for Windows Reinstallation
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diskpart method of partition is very difficult for me dear,
I think it is better to partition of new hard disk in a windows xp pc..
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08 Jun 2011   #25
theog

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You can do the first partition for the OS at this screen.

Need quick help about new hard disk partition on win 7 disk management-1.png

In the above link.


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08 Jun 2011   #26
IamLEGEND

Windows 7 SP1 Ultimate x64
 
 

ok, I creates partitions in windows seven installation process.
and tell me what is Advance Format Hard Drive.? is windows seven do already Advance format or we have to download a utility for it..?
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09 Jun 2011   #27
dsperber

Windows 7 Pro x64 (1), Win7 Pro X64 (2)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by theog View Post
You can only have 4 Primary partitions.
This statement is misleading, though accurate.

Yes, you can only have four "PRIMARY" partitions on a drive. However one of those primary partitions can be the "Extended Partition", inside of which can be ANY NUMBER OF "LOGICAL" PARTITIONS.

So theoretically, you could have 1, 2, 3 or 4 primary partitions on a simple drive. Or, you could have 1 "extended partition" and ANY NUMBER of logical partitions inside of it. Or, you could have up to 3 other primary partitions plus 1 "extended partition" and ANY NUMBER of logical partitions inside of it.

The DISKMGMT screenshots show that he has a mixture of "primary" (dark blue bar over them) and "logical" partitions (lighter blue bar over them), and that there's nothing improper about a total of more than four TOTAL partitions. Some are primary, and some are logical. Perfectly valid. Not a problem.


I will never for the life of me understand why people use DISKMGMT and DISKPART and not Partition Wizard, to manage hard drive partitions. Downloading and burning the ISO for the standalone boot CD for Partition Wizard is also recommended, of course, for those special situations (like working with a brand new machine and hard drives, etc.).

It's just astonishing to me how many new threads are started by people having exactly the same issues, where they've gotten themselves into trouble because of the relatively non-intuitive interface of the stock built-in Windows disk management tools, as compared to the simple straightforward can't-go-wrong GUI interface (both under Windows as well as standalone boot CD) of PW.


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09 Jun 2011   #28
theog

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by IamLEGEND View Post
ok, I creates partitions in windows seven installation process.
and tell me what is Advance Format Hard Drive.? is windows seven do already Advance format or we have to download a utility for it..?
what is Advance Format Hard Drive?

Advanced Format - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Product Features
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09 Jun 2011   #29
IamLEGEND

Windows 7 SP1 Ultimate x64
 
 

thanks dsperber for your full of info post.. actually windows disk management is commonly used for partitions, that's y v also use it. now I ll try Partition Wizard.
@Theog
in product feature link, wd vendor says that windows seven formatting is already had Advance Format.
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09 Jun 2011   #30
dsperber

Windows 7 Pro x64 (1), Win7 Pro X64 (2)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by LiquidSnak View Post
  • Primary partition - a primary partition can be used to boot an Operating System. Your Windows OS is installed on a primary partition.
  • Extended partition - an extended partition is used to hold logical drives.
  • Logical drives - logical drives hold files unrelated to the Operating System - pretty much everything else on your computer - data, audio, video, etc.
Just to be accurate here...

The "boot" partition (a) must be marked as the "active" partition on that hard drive, and (b) must be a "primary" partition, and (c) must reside on "hard disk #1" per the BIOS. That is the definition of the "boot" partition.

This partition does NOT need to contain the Windows OS, although it can. In fact, on a brand new empty drive installation of Win7, the "boot" partition (as I've defined it above) will be that 100MB "system reserved" partition in which the Win7 boot manager files will be installed. It will satisfy all the requirements of a "boot" partition, in that the Win7 installer ensures that (a) it is "primary" rather than "logical", (b) it is marked as the "active" partition on the hard drive, and (c) it resides on "hard disk #1" per the BIOS.

Just because that's the way Microsoft did things, by default there will then be a second "primary" partition in which the Win7 operating system itself will then be placed (typically a 50GB or larger partition, or even the rest of the hard drive if you don't take the time to partition the brand new drive during the Win7 install).

But in fact, you can install the Win7 operating system itself anywhere... in any other "primary" or "logical" partition, on the "hard disk #1" hard drive or on any other hard drive. In other words you do NOT have to place the real Win7 (or WinXP) operating system in a "primary" partition". It can go into a "logical" partition and still be 100% perfectly usable. And it can go on "hard disk #1" or you can place it on any other hard drive you want to place it on.

It is the "boot" partition which is the one and only required "primary" partition in the entire environment, be it one hard drive or multiple hard drives, and it can in fact be nothing more than that 100MB "system reserved" partition in which the boot manager files are placed.

Or, it can be the current bootable WinXP partition if you're adding Win7 as a second Windows OS to an existing WinXP configuration, planting the Win7 system into either another "logical" or "primary" partition on the same hard drive as WinXP already lives, or onto a "logical" or "primary" partition on some other hard drive. In this case, the Win7 boot manager files will be planted into the existing WinXP partition, because that "boot" WinXP partition by definition MUST be the "active" partition on "hard disk #1" per the BIOS, and of course must also be of type "primary". Had WinXP been added as a second OS then it could have gone into a "logical" or "primary" partition somewhere, but as the original bootable OS on "hard disk #1" per the BIOS in a single WinXP environment, the WinXP installer would have created that partition as "primary" and also marked it "active". In this case there is no need for the 100MB "system reserved" partition.

Or, it can be the Win7 partition itself, if you use EasyBCD (or triple-repair) to plant the Win7 boot manager files into the Win7 partition itself (assuming it's "primary") and mark that partition as "active", and make sure that this hard drive is set as 'hard disk #1" in the BIOS. Then again, there is no need for the 100MB "system reserved" partition.


So... there is nothing magic about "primary" partitions that makes them and them alone eligible to hold a Windows OS system partition. In fact, Windows can be installed into either "primary" or "logical" partitions.

And, there is ZERO requirement that ANY partition be "primary", other than the one single "boot" partition which MUST be "primary", MUST be marked "active", and MUST be on "hard disk #1" per the BIOS. It is into this one and only specific partition that the Win7 installer (or EasyBCD, or BCDEdit) will place the Win7 boot manager files.

All other partitions on this hard drive or any other hard drives can be "primary" (up to the limit of four primary partitions per hard drive) or "logical" (any number can be defined inside of the "extended partition", which is a type of "primary" partition of which one per hard drive is allowed... living within the constraint of four total primary partitions on a hard drive).

If you want, you can partition every one of your secondary hard drives to contain zero primary partitions other than the one "extended partition", and then inside that "extended partition" you can define ANY NUMBER OF "LOGICAL" PARTITIONS. In other words, every partition other than the "boot" partition can be "logical"... no matter what it contains, and no matter whether it's on "hard disk #1" or any other hard drive.

But if you define "primary" partitions then there is a limit of four maximum per hard drive, of which the "extended partition" inside of which all "logical" partitions live, counts as one of those four "primary" partitions allowed on the hard drive.
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