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Windows 7: Need quick help about new hard disk partition on win 7 disk management

09 Jun 2011   #31
IamLEGEND

Windows 7 SP1 Ultimate x64
 
 

thanks alot dear for such kind of info..
another thing I wanted to know,, is Partition Wizard partition utility had the option of "Advance Formatting".?
I bought the WD Caviar Green 1tb 64mb cache, and in the hard disk is written that it is better to format it with Advance format tool of wd align utility.
and I plane to remove my hdd Disk 0 and install only single 1tb hdd,, before installing 1tb wd, I was wanted to creates its partition,, and little confuse about windows seven partition. that's why I post my problem here...


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09 Jun 2011   #32
dsperber

Windows 7 Pro x64 (1), Win7 Pro X64 (2)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by IamLEGEND View Post
another thing I wanted to know,, is Partition Wizard partition utility had the option of "Advance Formatting".?
I don't think this special function is a feature of Partition Wizard.

PW "formats" partitions, e.g. to FAT32, NTFS, etc.

The Western Digital "advance formatting" you're referring to is a low-level format of the hard drive itself, which to be honest I don't think is needed at all. I believe the drive is "ready to be used immediately" right out of the carton.


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I bought the WD Caviar Green 1tb 64mb cache, and in the hard disk is written that it is better to format it with Advance format tool of wd align utility.
Again, I'm not familiar with this drive but from what I read it's all set to go for Win7, with no special "formatting" at all.

But I don't think it could hurt to use the WD utility on the drive. I just honestly don't think it's necessary.

I believe that if you wanted to, you should be able to partition it immediately with Partition Wizard, booting from the standalone CD since it sounds like you're literally going to "start over" and replace your existing hard drive with the new 1TB WD drive and install Win7 from scratch. But for simplicity, I would NOT do the partitioning before the Win7 install. I'd do it AFTER, as described below. In other words, you can use Partition Wizard even after the Win7 install, to shrink the Win7 partition and allocate new partitions in the then available "unallocated" space.


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and I plan to remove my hdd Disk 0 and install only single 1tb hdd,, before installing 1tb wd, I was wanted to creates its partition,, and little confuse about windows seven partition. that's why I post my problem here...
Here's my recommendation...

Assuming you remove your existing hard drive and replace it with the new WD drive, I believe your brand new 1TB drive will be usable immediately for a Win7 install, with zero need to run the WD formatting utility (although I don't think it will hurt anything if you do run it).

So go ahead and just install Win7 to this brand new empty hard drive. You will end up with two "primary" partitions on the drive as a result of the install process: (1) 100MB "system reserved", and (2) 980GB or so Win7 partition. Just let that happen. Don't do any partitioning with Partition Wizard before the install.


Now, after the Win7 installation to your new drive is complete, you can boot to the standalone Partition Wizard CD and now you can do whatever partitioning you want to in this PW standalone boot mode.

For example, first, you would first shrink your Win7 partition from 980GB down to say 100GB or whatever you think you might want. Win7 requires at least 30-40GB for the OS, and then the rest of that partition would be for \Users (documents, etc.), and allocating a 100GB partition seems reasonable. That would leave another 880GB for a second "data" partition, or even two "data" partitions, as you see fit. These would be allocated from within the newly available "unallocated space" that results from shrinking the Win7 partition.

I would allocate all of these additional partitions as "logical", rather than "primary", although as long as you don't want more than four total partitions on that drive they can all be "primary" (remembering that the "system reserved" counts for one of the four allowed "primary" partitions). But if you define them as "logical", then you have NO LIMIT WHATSOVER as to the maximum number on a hard drive.

Otherwise, aside from the maximum number consideration, "logical" and "primary" are functionally identical partition types.
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09 Jun 2011   #33
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by dsperber View Post

I will never for the life of me understand why people use DISKMGMT and DISKPART and not Partition Wizard, to manage hard drive partitions.

I'll tell you why, because in all the testing I've done with Partition Wizard, both the installed and the boot versions, I have seen it make format errors several times and completely mess up brand new installs and I haven't seen that using diskpart at all.

I prefer to use Windows to work on Windows whenever I can.
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09 Jun 2011   #34
IamLEGEND

Windows 7 SP1 Ultimate x64
 
 

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Now, after the Win7 installation to your new drive is complete, you can boot to the standalone Partition Wizard CD and now you can do whatever partitioning you want to in this PW standalone boot mode.

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very nice information dear,, could you kindly give me the link of PW boot cd wizard tutorial.. means how I create partition with pw boot cd..?
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09 Jun 2011   #35
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by IamLEGEND

very nice information dear,, could you kindly give me the link of PW boot cd wizard tutorial.. means how I create partition with pw boot cd..?

Hello.

First download the Partition Wizard Bootable Disk (PWBD) ISO file to the desktop, be sure to get the PWBD and not the installed version; scroll down to see the download link for the bootable CD ISO file at this link below.

Partition Wizard Free Bootable CD


Then use ImgBurn to burn the ISO to a CD, at no greater than 4x speed with a verify; it was designed for use and works best from a CD rather that a DVD then boot the created CD to make the changes.

ImgBurn Free ISO Burning Software
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09 Jun 2011   #36
IamLEGEND

Windows 7 SP1 Ultimate x64
 
 

Bare Fot Kid, the boot from cd/dvd that you gave to me I already know this how to set fist boot device, also we boot pc from cd/dvd from pressing F12 boot menu.
give me pw boot cd partition tutorial, if anyone creates it..
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09 Jun 2011   #37
theog

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

ME/XP/Vista/Win7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by dsperber View Post

I will never for the life of me understand why people use DISKMGMT and DISKPART and not Partition Wizard, to manage hard drive partitions.

I'll tell you why, because in all the testing I've done with Partition Wizard, both the installed and the boot versions, I have seen it make format errors several times and completely mess up brand new installs and I haven't seen that using diskpart at all.

I prefer to use Windows to work on Windows whenever I can.
Best to stay away from 3rd party partitioning tools.

Now, after the Win7 installation to your new drive is complete, you can boot to the standalone Partition Wizard CD and now you can do whatever partitioning you want to in this PW standalone boot mode.

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very nice information dear,, could you kindly give me the link of PW boot cd wizard tutorial.. means how I create partition with pw boot cd..?[/QUOTE]

Make sure your partition 1 is no less than 100 GB.
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09 Jun 2011   #38
dsperber

Windows 7 Pro x64 (1), Win7 Pro X64 (2)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by IamLEGEND View Post
give me pw boot cd partition tutorial, if anyone creates it..
Go to this page on the Partition Wizard web site, for "video tutorials" of the functions.

Believe me, once you run the program (either under Win7, the installed version, or the standalone boot CD version which is identical except that you won't see the Windows drive letters for the partitions) it's intuitive.
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09 Jun 2011   #39
IamLEGEND

Windows 7 SP1 Ultimate x64
 
 

I think I create partition after windows seven installed on new 1tb hard disk, in win seven., because its very familiar and easy way, pw boot might problem for me...

thanks all, specially Theog, dsperber, and bare foot kid for such kind of awesome information..
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tomorrow I do install win seven on new hdd, and after creating its partition, I'll update here..
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09 Jun 2011   #40
dsperber

Windows 7 Pro x64 (1), Win7 Pro X64 (2)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by IamLEGEND View Post
I think I create partition after windows seven installed on new 1tb hard disk, in win seven., because its very familiar and easy way, pw boot might problem for me...
This actually IS possible, at least to initiate the "shrinkage" of what will be the new C partition of your newly installed Win7 system on your new 1TB hard drive.

But since it is the OS system partition which you're wanting to re-size, Partition Wizard cannot actually DO that while Win7 is up and running... although you can set up the request to do the shrinkage while running PW under Win7.

So, once you get the re-size queued within PW under Win7, and then push the "apply" button, PW will tell you "I need to re-boot in order to complete the request" and you will respond OK.

The system will then shutdown and restart. At boot time, before Win7 actually is launched, PW will be kicked off at pre-boot time, to complete that C-partition re-size you requested earlier. You will be prompted for a few OK's to confirm, and then PW will quickly resize your C-partition down to the 100-150GB or whatever you've decided to shrink it to. You'll see the onscreen GUI (which by the way is identical at this moment to what you would see if you'd booted to the PW standalone CD and used that method in the first place).

When the C-partition resize completes, PW will then trigger the normal Win7 boot completion process, and you'll then be up and running with your freshly installed Win7 in the newly shrunken C-partition. The rest of the 1TB hard drive will now show up as "unallocated" when you now get back into Partition Wizard under Win7.

And now you CAN do the rest of your new partition(s) creating under Win7, creating [what I recommend should be "logical"] new partition(s) in that now "unallocated" space. These operations can be "queued" and "applied" right now, because they do not involve the Win7 system C-partition itself, but rather are involved only with the unallocated free space now on the remainder of that 1TB hard drive.


Honestly... it's really a piece of cake. I realize it's the first time you've done this type of thing, but you will very quickly be comfortable and secure with Partition Wizard... both running under Win7, and then also at pre-boot time to complete the C-partition re-size (which, again, is exactly what you'd see if you booted from the standalone CD).

Good luck.

Next time we hear from you tomorrow, I hope you'll have a story describing nothing but success.
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