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Windows 7: Show us your SSD performance

04 Jun 2011   #1701
A Guy

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Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
A Guy, how much do you know about 'over provisioning'? I read on Intels forum that you can get better performance by doing that. Just wonder what you know. I have never tried it.
I did read some on it. Some say it will increase the life 2x to almost 4x if you leave 20GB unpartitioned when you install Windows.

See this thread from 7F:

SSD Dilemma – Worth repartitioning???

But I believe the SSD is already overprovisioned by design as well. my 80GB SSD is actually closer to 90GB, but the extra 10GB is overprovisioning. This is an example, and I've not been able to find any numbers. Also, most of these threads about overprovisioning seem to be from 2009 when there was no trim software, nor wear leveling.

I found this quote on the Intel 510

Quote:
With a formatted capacity of 111GB, the 510 has been more over-provisioned than the competing M4. Over-provisioning reserves more of the NAND as a spare area, empty blocks of which are dedicated to be ready for writing, and to replace defective NAND automatically. The typical spare area on a 128GB SSD accounts for roughly 7 per cent of the drive, but the Intel 510 120GB has close to double that, with a spare area of 14 per cent. This is very much an Intel trait, as its X25-M series SSDs were also heavily over-provisioned.
Source

Basically. I'm not going to obsess over benchmarks when the SSD is fast, and I can spare a millisecond here and there while posting in word association, lol. I think the modern SSD's and firmware with Windows 7, are pretty much taking care of themselves. Could you eke out a few more MB's per second? I assume so, but I'd rather smell the roses

A Guy


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04 Jun 2011   #1702
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

I'll have to check that out. I've got a real old one, but it works great.
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04 Jun 2011   #1703
A Guy

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kipper View Post
Hey, Parted Magic has a new release; now its version 6.1
Thanks Kip

A Guy
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04 Jun 2011   #1704
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by A Guy View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
A Guy, how much do you know about 'over provisioning'? I read on Intels forum that you can get better performance by doing that. Just wonder what you know. I have never tried it.
I did read some on it. Some say it will increase the life 2x to almost 4x if you leave 20GB unpartitioned when you install Windows.

See this thread from 7F:

SSD Dilemma – Worth repartitioning???

But I believe the SSD is already overprovisioned by design as well. my 80GB SSD is actually closer to 90GB, but the extra 10GB is overprovisioning. This is an example, and I've not been able to find any numbers. Also, most of these threads about overprovisioning seem to be from 2009 when there was no trim software, nor wear leveling.

I found this quote on the Intel 510

Quote:
With a formatted capacity of 111GB, the 510 has been more over-provisioned than the competing M4. Over-provisioning reserves more of the NAND as a spare area, empty blocks of which are dedicated to be ready for writing, and to replace defective NAND automatically. The typical spare area on a 128GB SSD accounts for roughly 7 per cent of the drive, but the Intel 510 120GB has close to double that, with a spare area of 14 per cent. This is very much an Intel trait, as its X25-M series SSDs were also heavily over-provisioned.
Source

Basically. I'm not going to obsess over benchmarks when the SSD is fast, and I can spare a millisecond here and there while posting in word association, lol. I think the modern SSD's and firmware with Windows 7, are pretty much taking care of themselves. Could you eke out a few more MB's per second? I assume so, but I'd rather smell the roses

A Guy
I sort of felt the same way. That's why I have never tried it, but it dosen't hurt to ask.
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04 Jun 2011   #1705
Fumz

7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I must admit, half of me really admires the perseverance on display in this thread... from everyone involved, and the other half of me was sayin, "my god! when will it end!?"

I had to stop SSD tweaking when I (finally) came to the realization that, exactly like A Guy said, "I can spare a millisecond here and there", so it's time to stick my nose in a rose.
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04 Jun 2011   #1706
A Guy

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
I sort of felt the same way. That's why I have never tried it, but it dosen't hurt to ask.
Hopefully others will add to this new discussion. I love to geek it up. Funny, I only got a PC about 8 years ago, only because I had to for work. I had WebTv (MSNTV) and when people would talk PC, I'd fade out. Now, I'm the one who knows more about PCs then the people I know.

A Guy
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04 Jun 2011   #1707
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kipper View Post
Hey, Parted Magic has a new release; now its version 6.1
Thanks Kip. Just downloaded the ISO. Guess I'll have to drag out pendrive linux again.
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04 Jun 2011   #1708
Hopalong X

Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Fumz View Post
I must admit, half of me really admires the perseverance on display in this thread... from everyone involved, and the other half of me was sayin, "my god! when will it end!?"

I had to stop SSD tweaking when I (finally) came to the realization that, exactly like A Guy said, "I can spare a millisecond here and there", so it's time to stick my nose in a rose.
We didn't start this a week ago for tweaking just to install the SSD.
Then my lack of knowledge and experience at minor issues and the resulting weeks worth of postings.

I wasn't trying to install the driver for tweaking.
I was attempting to get the Intel Toolbox to work properly. Then found that having the Iastor driver would or could solve the problem.

So that accounts for the last 2-3 days.

To paraphrase the Grateful Dead "What a long strange trip it's been".

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04 Jun 2011   #1709
Hopalong X

Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Wishmaster View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dave76 View Post

Just wondering if the Intel ToolBox works with the msachi driver?
Mike was having trouble with secure erase, thought the driver might be the problem.

If you get a chance try the ToolBox, check everything except the secure erase
The msahci driver does work with the toolbox. The only problem is secure erase but I can get it to work with the x25-M which I have. I think the problem was Hoppy's 320 with incription. Just a guess. But the toolbox will work for me with msahci. I'm trying iastor now just to see if there is a difference.
Ive had no issues with the Ms AHCI driver either.

However, as I mentioned previously, I did have issues trying to Secure Erase my Intel SSD.
After deleting the partitions, and cycling the power, it would just keep refreshing. It would not actually initiate the SE.

For me, the fix was indeed using the Intel AHCI drive, iastore.
Im using the 02HD FW on my X-25V if that makes a difference.
Thanks Wishmaster.

You were my inspiration to install the Intel driver.

Though I think I'll "test" the Secure Erase later down the road.

Image making time!!!
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04 Jun 2011   #1710
derekimo

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Win 10 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Fumz View Post
I must admit, half of me really admires the perseverance on display in this thread... from everyone involved, and the other half of me was sayin, "my god! when will it end!?"

I had to stop SSD tweaking when I (finally) came to the realization that, exactly like A Guy said, "I can spare a millisecond here and there", so it's time to stick my nose in a rose.
It has been fun following this, I can see these posts being referenced in the future.
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