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Windows 7: Show us your SSD performance

20 Jun 2011   #1811
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

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wow ! But, I could probably build another computer for what the 720 will cost.


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20 Jun 2011   #1812
Hopalong X

Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
I don't know why and have never tested it. But I have heard several places that benchmarks only approach rated speeds on an empty drive. My guess would simply be that the data slows it down. I've always heard also that filling a SSD will dramatically slow it down. Many of the 'expert' web sites say not to go beyond 80% full. I was reading on Intel forums the other day that if you partition your drive and leave the last partition unallocated, the speed will be faster and that the controller would use the unallocated part to replace worn cells. I haven't ever tried that either and have no intention to. I'm happy with the speed I have now and don't think another .01ms faster would make much difference.
All SSD's come from the factory with unallocated, unaccessible space. Usually 6%-10% to replace RaS as needed.
So that is no problem. It is not included when doing a secure erase so I have read because no info is there. As RaS is needed it would include the replacement sector used into the usable erasable sectors.
The factory sectors from my understanding are on each NAND chip not a true partition as you would think on a HDD.
A mini partition on each NAND chip.
A NAND cell is 512bytes so you can do the math.
Otherwise an entire NAND chip might be unusable because it is reserved thus decreasing speed.
A 300GB SSD would have two NAND chips unusable.

The speed part I don't know if it would help from making a true partition.
Supposedly it does for running Benchmarks. That is all I have ever read.
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Essenbe quite reasonable.

80% full makes sense with 6-10% already taken by manufacturer.
That leaves you 10-14% to compress and uncompress files etc and whatever else it needs.

My Intel 320 120GB is 111.79GB usable.
8GB reserved by Intel.
Max my data out 100GB no more than 102GB.
After reading and following along with the xtreme forum testing that makes sense.

On a 60GB that would be about 56GB usable. So around 50-51GB max capacity.

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FYI for anyone-
The firmware is on the controller chip not the NAND set aside.
Someone had that on a different forum but was corrected.


Everything above is what I have been learning about SSD's the last several weeks.
True as best as I know.
No problem if you have different info.
Post it up for all to see or a link or both!
Mike
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20 Jun 2011   #1813
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Since you guys like to go into the nitty gritty parts of SSDs, here is a useful document that I just found in my favorites.
MakeUseOf.com - Solid State Drives#
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20 Jun 2011   #1814
Hopalong X

Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit
 
 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
wow ! But, I could probably build another computer for what the 720 will cost.
Ouch!

That hurt and they haven't even priced them yet!
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Thanks WHS.

Will take a look and save.

I just find the SSD's interesting reading. How they work etc.
I don't understand it all but I am learning.

Mike
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20 Jun 2011   #1815
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
wow ! But, I could probably build another computer for what the 720 will cost.
Ouch!

That hurt and they haven't even priced them yet!
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Thanks WHS.

Will take a look and save.

I just find the SSD's interesting reading. How they work etc.
I don't understand it all but I am learning.

Now if they would make an SSD/RAM combo to plug into the RAM slots then we would see some speed!

Why PCI when you can RAM it????!!!!

I know it would not work with moboards now but.....RAM/SSD combo would be the way to go. Six lanes straight to the CPU!
Mike
They don't have to release the prices. Look at your-size-cost-performance #'s
Now, just try to fighre. Minimum size is 200GB-Speed 2200MG/s. You tell me what you think they will charge.
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20 Jun 2011   #1816
Hopalong X

Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Hopalong X View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post

wow ! But, I could probably build another computer for what the 720 will cost.
Ouch!

That hurt and they haven't even priced them yet!
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Thanks WHS.

Will take a look and save.

I just find the SSD's interesting reading. How they work etc.
I don't understand it all but I am learning.

Now if they would make an SSD/RAM combo to plug into the RAM slots then we would see some speed!

Why PCI when you can RAM it????!!!!

I know it would not work with moboards now but.....RAM/SSD combo would be the way to go. Six lanes straight to the CPU!
Mike
They don't have to release the prices. Look at your-size-cost-performance #'s
Now, just try to fighre. Minimum size is 200GB-Speed 2200MG/s. You tell me what you think they will charge.
Revo's I can't afford the mini sized one!

The 710's are industrial strength (commercial grade actually).
The OCZ industrial strength start if memory serves at about $1000.
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20 Jun 2011   #1817
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Well, like I said. I can build a decent computer for $1000.

Hoppy, also you have a 120GB SSD, isn't your available space 111GB? I have an 80GB and is 74GB useable. Intel forums said the X25's had 7% reserved which comes out exactly right.
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20 Jun 2011   #1818
profdlp

Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Hopalong X View Post
...Now if they would make an SSD/RAM combo to plug into the RAM slots then we would see some speed!

Why PCI when you can RAM it????!!!!

I know it would not work with moboards now but.....RAM/SSD combo would be the way to go. Six lanes straight to the CPU!
Mike
Not in a RAM slot, but a PCIe slot:

OCZ RevoDrive PCI-Express SSD - OCZ
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20 Jun 2011   #1819
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by profdlp View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Hopalong X View Post
...Now if they would make an SSD/RAM combo to plug into the RAM slots then we would see some speed!

Why PCI when you can RAM it????!!!!

I know it would not work with moboards now but.....RAM/SSD combo would be the way to go. Six lanes straight to the CPU!
Mike
Not in a RAM slot, but a PCIe slot:

OCZ RevoDrive PCI-Express SSD - OCZ
Intel is calling it Ramsdale
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20 Jun 2011   #1820
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by profdlp View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Hopalong X View Post
...Now if they would make an SSD/RAM combo to plug into the RAM slots then we would see some speed!

Why PCI when you can RAM it????!!!!

I know it would not work with moboards now but.....RAM/SSD combo would be the way to go. Six lanes straight to the CPU!
Mike
Not in a RAM slot, but a PCIe slot:

OCZ RevoDrive PCI-Express SSD - OCZ

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