Memory problem, I think

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  1. Posts : 85
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    Thread Starter
       #31

    essenbe said:
    How high do you have your CPU overclocked? I know boards are different, but on most 1155 boards 1.3V is only needed at 4.5 or above. I'm running 4.2 with Vcore set at 1.272 and the offset at -.020 so I'm at 1.252V in bios.

    4.4 so show I just set my Vcore to auto?
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  2. Posts : 26,869
    Windows 11 Pro
       #32

    auto is probably not enough, but use offset and not manual to adjust the voltage. 1.3 is OK, but you are generally better off with as little vcore as you can run and be stable. The lower the vcore the less heat produced. Test with Prime95 for stability. Here is an article about overclocking your board. It will also explain the terminology of the terms in bios and what they do.
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  3. Posts : 85
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    Thread Starter
       #33

    essenbe said:
    auto is probably not enough, but use offset and not manual to adjust the voltage. 1.3 is OK, but you are generally better off with as little vcore as you can run and be stable. The lower the vcore the less heat produced. Test with Prime95 for stability. Here is an article about overclocking your board. It will also explain the terminology of the terms in bios and what they do.

    I just tried the offset and when I rebooted I got a core error, the voltage went up to 1.80, so I went back in and set it to manual and put the 1.30 back in. I don't have any heat issues the highest has been 36C
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  4. Posts : 12,177
    Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
       #34

    debgram1 said:
    Did you get your RAM at the same time and from the same store?
    One kit or two kits? No I didn't get the last 2 sticks at the same time but I got them at the same store, newegg.com, I got the first 2 in March and the second in July or somewhere around there.

    Your MemDiag test is showing errors. Yes but it's not showing errors now
    debgram1 said:

    Asus forum said to bump it up to 1.55.

    I was able to open those .wer files in notepad

    Code:
    first test
    Version=1
    EventType=MemDiagV1
    EventTime=129665490090145812
    Consent=1
    UploadTime=129665490090301813
    ReportIdentifier=c21d6194-1606-11e1-b6aa-bcaec576ecdb
    Response.BucketId=2591664676
    Response.BucketTable=5
    Response.type=4
    Sig[0].Name=Range of memory size
    Sig[0].Value=4097
    Sig[1].Name=Launch type
    Sig[1].Value=Manual
    Sig[2].Name=Schedule type
    Sig[2].Value=Immediate
    Sig[3].Name=Completion type
    Sig[3].Value=Fail
    Sig[4].Name=Test type
    Sig[4].Value=Standard
    Sig[5].Name=Failed tests
    Sig[5].Value=31
    Sig[6].Name=Number of bad pages
    Sig[6].Value=60
    Sig[7].Name=Test duration in seconds
    Sig[7].Value=300
    DynamicSig[1].Name=OS Version
    DynamicSig[1].Value=6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
    DynamicSig[2].Name=Locale ID
    DynamicSig[2].Value=1033
    State[0].Key=Transport.DoneStage1
    State[0].Value=1
    State[1].Key=DataRequest
    State[1].Value=Bucket=-1703302620/nBucketTable=5/nResponse=1/n
    FriendlyEventName=Memory test results reported
    ConsentKey=MemDiagV1
    AppName=Windows Memory Diagnostic
    AppPath=C:\Windows\System32\RelPost.exe
    ReportDescription=The results of running the Windows Memory Diagnostic were submitted to Microsoft for analysis and product improvement
    second test
    Version=1
    EventType=MemDiagV1
    EventTime=129665503502645179
    Consent=1
    UploadTime=129665503502645179
    ReportIdentifier=e18fe13b-1609-11e1-b064-bcaec576ecdb
    Response.BucketId=2591704860
    Response.BucketTable=5
    Response.type=4
    Sig[0].Name=Range of memory size
    Sig[0].Value=4097
    Sig[1].Name=Launch type
    Sig[1].Value=Manual
    Sig[2].Name=Schedule type
    Sig[2].Value=Immediate
    Sig[3].Name=Completion type
    Sig[3].Value=Fail
    Sig[4].Name=Test type
    Sig[4].Value=Standard
    Sig[5].Name=Failed tests
    Sig[5].Value=91
    Sig[6].Name=Number of bad pages
    Sig[6].Value=80
    Sig[7].Name=Test duration in seconds
    Sig[7].Value=330
    DynamicSig[1].Name=OS Version
    DynamicSig[1].Value=6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
    DynamicSig[2].Name=Locale ID
    DynamicSig[2].Value=1033
    State[0].Key=Transport.DoneStage1
    State[0].Value=1
    State[1].Key=DataRequest
    State[1].Value=Bucket=-1703262436/nBucketTable=5/nResponse=1/n
    FriendlyEventName=Memory test results reported
    ConsentKey=MemDiagV1
    AppName=Windows Memory Diagnostic
    AppPath=C:\Windows\System32\RelPost.exe
    ReportDescription=The results of running the Windows Memory Diagnostic were submitted to Microsoft for analysis and product improvement
    third test
    Version=1
    EventType=MemDiagV1
    EventTime=129665533004604948
    Consent=1
    UploadTime=129665533004760948
    ReportIdentifier=c0040f94-1610-11e1-b60e-bcaec576ecdb
    Response.BucketId=79261410
    Response.BucketTable=5
    Response.type=4
    Sig[0].Name=Range of memory size
    Sig[0].Value=4097
    Sig[1].Name=Launch type
    Sig[1].Value=Manual
    Sig[2].Name=Schedule type
    Sig[2].Value=Immediate
    Sig[3].Name=Completion type
    Sig[3].Value=Pass
    Sig[4].Name=Test type
    Sig[4].Value=Standard
    Sig[5].Name=Failed tests
    Sig[5].Value=0
    Sig[6].Name=Number of bad pages
    Sig[6].Value=0
    Sig[7].Name=Test duration in seconds
    Sig[7].Value=300
    DynamicSig[1].Name=OS Version
    DynamicSig[1].Value=6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
    DynamicSig[2].Name=Locale ID
    DynamicSig[2].Value=1033
    State[0].Key=Transport.DoneStage1
    State[0].Value=1
    FriendlyEventName=Memory test results reported
    ConsentKey=MemDiagV1
    AppName=Windows Memory Diagnostic
    AppPath=C:\Windows\System32\RelPost.exe
    ReportDescription=The results of running the Windows Memory Diagnostic were submitted to Microsoft for analysis and product improvement
    Run Memtest86+, it is a much better RAM test.


    When you run memtest86+ you are looking for bad RAM cards, bad motherboard slots, so you need to follow the testing procedure in the tutorial.
    Run the first memtest86+ test with all four RAM cards installed, if you get errors stop the test and then follow the procedure in the tutorial.
    Sometimes errors from these tests can be corrected by adjusting the settings.
    If you get any errors on any set of tests, you can stop the test and move to the next step. I ran memtest for 6 passes and no errors

    RAM - Test with Memtest86+

    Have you been checking your temperatures? I always keep track of temps, runs at 34 C or 35C
    Use Real Temp , to check the CPU temps when at idle, under load and/or testing.
    Let us know the minimum and maximum temps you get.

    This is very important, with four RAM cards or 4GB RAM or more you may need to bump the integrated memory controller voltage. My cpu voltage is 1.30, Ram 1.55, but I didn't see a cpu integrated memory controller or is that the RAM one? I did bump the cpu and ram to these temps listed here.
    Go to your BIOS and tell us what the CPU and the CPU integrated memory controller voltages are.
    The Integrated Memory Controller voltage for your motherboard is VCCIO.
    Check for this in your BIOS, should be in the same place as the CPU and RAM voltages.
    Let us know what the VCCIO voltage is.

    Is the RAM you bought in July the exact same manufacturer, model, part number, timings and frequency as the RAM you got in March?
    Post the CPUZ snips of the SPD tab, one snip for the RAM you bought in March and one snip for the RAM you bought in July.

    As mentioned, CPU voltage seems high, be very careful when adjusting any voltage.
    Too high a voltage can damage your components, CPU, RAM, etc.

    Are you having any restart or crash issues now?
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  5. Posts : 85
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    Thread Starter
       #35

    I went and set my cpu voltage to 1.28. The VCCIO I have set at 1.19375 but were the first line I guess that means the cpu itself has it at 1.212V

    http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/26/37340//slot1.jpg
    http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/26/37340//slot3.jpg


    I haven't had any crashes or restarts. Like I said the only time I have that restart, shut off, restart is when I try to set the one timing from 8 to 7




    Dave76 said:
    debgram1 said:
    Did you get your RAM at the same time and from the same store?
    One kit or two kits? No I didn't get the last 2 sticks at the same time but I got them at the same store, newegg.com, I got the first 2 in March and the second in July or somewhere around there.

    Your MemDiag test is showing errors. Yes but it's not showing errors now
    debgram1 said:

    Asus forum said to bump it up to 1.55.

    I was able to open those .wer files in notepad

    Code:
    first test
    Version=1
    EventType=MemDiagV1
    EventTime=129665490090145812
    Consent=1
    UploadTime=129665490090301813
    ReportIdentifier=c21d6194-1606-11e1-b6aa-bcaec576ecdb
    Response.BucketId=2591664676
    Response.BucketTable=5
    Response.type=4
    Sig[0].Name=Range of memory size
    Sig[0].Value=4097
    Sig[1].Name=Launch type
    Sig[1].Value=Manual
    Sig[2].Name=Schedule type
    Sig[2].Value=Immediate
    Sig[3].Name=Completion type
    Sig[3].Value=Fail
    Sig[4].Name=Test type
    Sig[4].Value=Standard
    Sig[5].Name=Failed tests
    Sig[5].Value=31
    Sig[6].Name=Number of bad pages
    Sig[6].Value=60
    Sig[7].Name=Test duration in seconds
    Sig[7].Value=300
    DynamicSig[1].Name=OS Version
    DynamicSig[1].Value=6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
    DynamicSig[2].Name=Locale ID
    DynamicSig[2].Value=1033
    State[0].Key=Transport.DoneStage1
    State[0].Value=1
    State[1].Key=DataRequest
    State[1].Value=Bucket=-1703302620/nBucketTable=5/nResponse=1/n
    FriendlyEventName=Memory test results reported
    ConsentKey=MemDiagV1
    AppName=Windows Memory Diagnostic
    AppPath=C:\Windows\System32\RelPost.exe
    ReportDescription=The results of running the Windows Memory Diagnostic were submitted to Microsoft for analysis and product improvement
    second test
    Version=1
    EventType=MemDiagV1
    EventTime=129665503502645179
    Consent=1
    UploadTime=129665503502645179
    ReportIdentifier=e18fe13b-1609-11e1-b064-bcaec576ecdb
    Response.BucketId=2591704860
    Response.BucketTable=5
    Response.type=4
    Sig[0].Name=Range of memory size
    Sig[0].Value=4097
    Sig[1].Name=Launch type
    Sig[1].Value=Manual
    Sig[2].Name=Schedule type
    Sig[2].Value=Immediate
    Sig[3].Name=Completion type
    Sig[3].Value=Fail
    Sig[4].Name=Test type
    Sig[4].Value=Standard
    Sig[5].Name=Failed tests
    Sig[5].Value=91
    Sig[6].Name=Number of bad pages
    Sig[6].Value=80
    Sig[7].Name=Test duration in seconds
    Sig[7].Value=330
    DynamicSig[1].Name=OS Version
    DynamicSig[1].Value=6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
    DynamicSig[2].Name=Locale ID
    DynamicSig[2].Value=1033
    State[0].Key=Transport.DoneStage1
    State[0].Value=1
    State[1].Key=DataRequest
    State[1].Value=Bucket=-1703262436/nBucketTable=5/nResponse=1/n
    FriendlyEventName=Memory test results reported
    ConsentKey=MemDiagV1
    AppName=Windows Memory Diagnostic
    AppPath=C:\Windows\System32\RelPost.exe
    ReportDescription=The results of running the Windows Memory Diagnostic were submitted to Microsoft for analysis and product improvement
    third test
    Version=1
    EventType=MemDiagV1
    EventTime=129665533004604948
    Consent=1
    UploadTime=129665533004760948
    ReportIdentifier=c0040f94-1610-11e1-b60e-bcaec576ecdb
    Response.BucketId=79261410
    Response.BucketTable=5
    Response.type=4
    Sig[0].Name=Range of memory size
    Sig[0].Value=4097
    Sig[1].Name=Launch type
    Sig[1].Value=Manual
    Sig[2].Name=Schedule type
    Sig[2].Value=Immediate
    Sig[3].Name=Completion type
    Sig[3].Value=Pass
    Sig[4].Name=Test type
    Sig[4].Value=Standard
    Sig[5].Name=Failed tests
    Sig[5].Value=0
    Sig[6].Name=Number of bad pages
    Sig[6].Value=0
    Sig[7].Name=Test duration in seconds
    Sig[7].Value=300
    DynamicSig[1].Name=OS Version
    DynamicSig[1].Value=6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
    DynamicSig[2].Name=Locale ID
    DynamicSig[2].Value=1033
    State[0].Key=Transport.DoneStage1
    State[0].Value=1
    FriendlyEventName=Memory test results reported
    ConsentKey=MemDiagV1
    AppName=Windows Memory Diagnostic
    AppPath=C:\Windows\System32\RelPost.exe
    ReportDescription=The results of running the Windows Memory Diagnostic were submitted to Microsoft for analysis and product improvement
    Run Memtest86+, it is a much better RAM test.


    When you run memtest86+ you are looking for bad RAM cards, bad motherboard slots, so you need to follow the testing procedure in the tutorial.
    Run the first memtest86+ test with all four RAM cards installed, if you get errors stop the test and then follow the procedure in the tutorial.
    Sometimes errors from these tests can be corrected by adjusting the settings.
    If you get any errors on any set of tests, you can stop the test and move to the next step. I ran memtest for 6 passes and no errors

    RAM - Test with Memtest86+

    Have you been checking your temperatures? I always keep track of temps, runs at 34 C or 35C
    Use Real Temp , to check the CPU temps when at idle, under load and/or testing.
    Let us know the minimum and maximum temps you get.

    This is very important, with four RAM cards or 4GB RAM or more you may need to bump the integrated memory controller voltage. My cpu voltage is 1.30, Ram 1.55, but I didn't see a cpu integrated memory controller or is that the RAM one? I did bump the cpu and ram to these temps listed here.
    Go to your BIOS and tell us what the CPU and the CPU integrated memory controller voltages are.
    The Integrated Memory Controller voltage for your motherboard is VCCIO.
    Check for this in your BIOS, should be in the same place as the CPU and RAM voltages.
    Let us know what the VCCIO voltage is.

    Is the RAM you bought in July the exact same manufacturer, model, part number, timings and frequency as the RAM you got in March?
    Post the CPUZ snips of the SPD tab, one snip for the RAM you bought in March and one snip for the RAM you bought in July.

    As mentioned, CPU voltage seems high, be very careful when adjusting any voltage.
    Too high a voltage can damage your components, CPU, RAM, etc.

    Are you having any restart or crash issues now?
      My Computer


  6. Posts : 2,562
    windows 10 pro 64 bit
       #36

    Overclocking/timing is not guaranteed....You will either have to live with the setting that work or change out your ram.....
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  7. Posts : 12,177
    Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
       #37

    debgram1 said:
    I went and set my cpu voltage to 1.28. The VCCIO I have set at 1.19375 but were the first line I guess that means the cpu itself has it at 1.212V

    http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/26/37340//slot1.jpg
    http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/26/37340//slot3.jpg


    I haven't had any crashes or restarts. Like I said the only time I have that restart, shut off, restart is when I try to set the one timing from 8 to 7
    I can't open any of your links, can you post them here using the 'Paperclip' in the reply box?
    Or the first point in the 'Information' box
    For how to upload a screenshot or file, read here
    With Vcore at 1.28v and VCCIO 1.194V, you adjusted your timings and it's stable.
    You can use what you have now or lower the voltages (one at a time) a little until you get a crash, then bump it up a notch. If it's stable, you're good.
    Best to get the voltages as low as possible.
    I would hope you can get the VCCIO down to 1.5 1.15 to 1.7 1.17v, with DRAM at 1.55v.

    EDIT: Typo
    The last line above should be:
    I would hope you can get the VCCIO down to 1.15 to 1.17v, with DRAM at 1.55v.
    Last edited by Dave76; 29 Nov 2011 at 07:59.
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  8. Posts : 85
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    Thread Starter
       #38

    okay here are the 3 screenshots


    Dave76 said:
    debgram1 said:
    I went and set my cpu voltage to 1.28. The VCCIO I have set at 1.19375 but were the first line I guess that means the cpu itself has it at 1.212V

    http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/26/37340//slot1.jpg
    http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/5/26/37340//slot3.jpg


    I haven't had any crashes or restarts. Like I said the only time I have that restart, shut off, restart is when I try to set the one timing from 8 to 7
    I can't open any of your links, can you post them here using the 'Paperclip' in the reply box?
    Or the first point in the 'Information' box
    For how to upload a screenshot or file, read here
    With Vcore at 1.28v and VCCIO 1.194V, you adjusted your timings and it's stable.
    You can use what you have now or lower the voltages (one at a time) a little until you get a crash, then bump it up a notch. If it's stable, you're good.
    Best to get the voltages as low as possible.
    I would hope you can get the VCCIO down to 1.5 to 1.7v, with DRAM at 1.55v.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Memory problem, I think-slot1.jpg   Memory problem, I think-slot3.jpg   Memory problem, I think-slot4.jpg  
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  9. Posts : 12,177
    Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
       #39

    Please see the correction in my last post, VCCIO voltage should be 1.15 to 1.17v or even less.
    The standard default is 1.10v, I would try it at 1.150v and see if it will run stable.

    Just leave your RAM timings at 8-8-7-24, you won't notice the difference.

    CPUZ SPD tabs look good for all your RAM, shouldn't be any problems.

    If you feel like the issue is resolved, you can mark it 'Solved'.
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  10. Posts : 85
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    Thread Starter
       #40

    Dave76 said:
    Please see the correction in my last post, VCCIO voltage should be 1.15 to 1.17v or even less.
    The standard default is 1.10v, I would try it at 1.150v and see if it will run stable.

    Just leave your RAM timings at 8-8-7-24, you won't notice the difference.

    CPUZ SPD tabs look good for all your RAM, shouldn't be any problems.

    If you feel like the issue is resolved, you can mark it 'Solved'.
    I lowered my ram voltage to 1.53. I will change the VCCIO to 1.15. I'm still getting the blue screen and I'm wondering if it might be my hard drive. I had the same problem a few weeks ago where it wouldn't boot and in the repair mode my os wasn't even listed, it couldn't find a os or boot file. Would a bad ram slot do that or the hard drive?
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