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Windows 7: BSOD when GPU overheats... Seems too cool to be overheating.

08 Feb 2012   #11

Windows 7 Ultimate x64

...Well. I'm getting more and more confused.

Including the snip of Speccy, but I cannot get my computer to create a minidump, or bluescreen even now.

Every time I blue screened, either through OCCT, Furmark, or just playing a game, my computer restarts too quickly for it to save the dump. I figured my issue was that I needed to disable auto restart. So I did. And now my computer won't blue screen at all, but just makes the entire system go to crap. Windows Explorer assumingly crashes, since my start bar and desktop disappears, Chrome starts giving me this screen with every new tab I open, and any other program I have open (including OCCT) gives me various error messages basically boiling down to that it can't save anything on the hard drive.

I know I *used* to get minidumps. I just accidentally deleted them all with CCleaner. But now I can't get any new ones. It seems if I enable automatic restart, I will blue screen, but not save a minidump. If I disable it, after a while instead of blue screening, my computer just cacks up so much, I have to manual restart.

Some things I should have mentioned the first time:
My GPU and hard drive have both been replaced. They were under warranty still and I sent them in hoping that new hardware would fix the problem. Neither one did.
I have reinstalled windows.
I have ran both sticks of my RAM through memtest, about 14 passes each. I tested each one individually overnight. Both had zero errors.

I updated to the newest NVIDIA beta, but since it didn't seem to help, I'm going to go ahead and just install the older, not beta driver.


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08 Feb 2012   #12

Windows 10 Pro/ Windows 10 Pro Insider

Take a look at this tutorial on how to enable dumps. maybe that will help the process.

I would also consider a PSU problem. Considering the fact that the BSODs occur under strenuous activity and the brand of CPU you have.
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08 Feb 2012   #13

Windows 7 Ultimate x64

That is actually a tutorial I have gone through, and followed it's steps exactly. Neither the kernel dump or small dump will generate anything.

Finally got a BSOD with automatic restart disabled, and this happened:

Computer sat this way for several minutes without advancing through the process of actually saving the dump... Finally had to manual restart.

I had not considered a PSU issue. I will see if it is still under warranty, and perhaps try getting a new one.
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08 Feb 2012   #14

Windows 10 Pro/ Windows 10 Pro Insider

Take a look at this thread from Microsoft Answers and see if there is any help there. You will be better able to determine if this fits your situation.
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08 Feb 2012   #15

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1

If the GPU temperature 58C is from idle state then is very hot.
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08 Feb 2012   #16

Windows 7 Ultimate x64

GPU idles at around 30. It runs between 65~75 when under load.

I do not think my problem is the one described in this thread. It has nothing to do with my computer being in hibernation/sleep, but that is the same error code I got, so I went through the steps listed there anyway.

Here's the results of my check disk:

Checking file system on C:
The type of the file system is NTFS.

A disk check has been scheduled.
Windows will now check the disk.

CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 5)...
256768 file records processed. File verification completed.
211 large file records processed. 0 bad file records processed. 2 EA records processed. 60 reparse records processed. CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 5)...
318694 index entries processed. Index verification completed.
0 unindexed files scanned. 0 unindexed files recovered. CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 5)...
256768 file SDs/SIDs processed. Cleaning up 178 unused index entries from index $SII of file 0x9.
Cleaning up 178 unused index entries from index $SDH of file 0x9.
Cleaning up 178 unused security descriptors.
Security descriptor verification completed.
30964 data files processed. CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal...
The USN Journal entry at offset 0x7196d600 and length 0x2e0073 crosses
the page boundary.
Repairing Usn Journal file record segment.
34470496 USN bytes processed. Usn Journal verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying file data (stage 4 of 5)...
256752 files processed. File data verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying free space (stage 5 of 5)...
178597016 free clusters processed. Free space verification is complete.
Windows has made corrections to the file system.

976760831 KB total disk space.
261889396 KB in 170612 files.
93960 KB in 30965 indexes.
0 KB in bad sectors.
389411 KB in use by the system.
65536 KB occupied by the log file.
714388064 KB available on disk.

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
244190207 total allocation units on disk.
178597016 allocation units available on disk.

Internal Info:
00 eb 03 00 73 13 03 00 7b 9b 05 00 00 00 00 00 ....s...{.......
7c 2a 00 00 3c 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |*..<...........
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

Windows has finished checking your disk.
Please wait while your computer restarts.

Going to restate just in case:
The HDD has been replaced
Both sticks of RAM have been memtested for 14 passes each, tested separately.
The GPU has been replaced as well
Windows has been reinstalled.

I am going to try unplugging all unnecessary hardware, and using a different SATA cable for my hard drive to see if that may help. These are, however, all steps I have tried in the past but I will try again.

Is there any chance I could have a bad MOBO?
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09 Feb 2012   #17

Windows 10 Pro. EFI boot partition, full EFI boot

Check your disk at a low level scan for errors. Use the seagate or western digital disk check software.

How much pagefile do you have setup? That error could indicate a disk issue where the pagefile is getting corrupted or insufficient pagefile.

The GTS 450 will not only use on-board, but also system RAM. This may cause swapping and hence be hitting your pagefile triggering this issue.

Also, since you had file system inconsistencies, I would run, from and elevated command window, sfc /verifyonly to check the consistency of the system files.
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09 Feb 2012   #18

Windows 7 Ultimate x64

My pagefile is 4 gb. Should I change this value?

Running SeaTools right now, and I will run the system file checker after that.

Also, I unplugged everything but fans, HD, RAM, and GPU from my mobo, and changed the cable/mobo port that my HD was plugged into. Still got a bluescreen when running OCCT, this time with error 0x0f4. Googling this error code led me to a thread of someone with a different Geforce GPU getting both 0x7a and 0xf4 like me. It was determined that their PSU was not sufficient to run the GPU. My PSU is a CoolMax CUL 650W. The specs are listed there.

This is the first rig I've ever built, and the PSU was one of the things I was confused the most about.
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10 Feb 2012   #19

Windows 7 Ultimate x64

Also, the HD passed the system file checker, and also passed every test in SeaTools.
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10 Feb 2012   #20

Windows 10 Pro/ Windows 10 Pro Insider

The PSU was mentioned earlier. If you have a friend who has an extra one or some way to test another PSU, I would give it a try before buying one without knowing if that is your problem. Most every other test you have done has passed. The problems occur when the system is under stress, which puts more demand on your GPU and PSU as well as other components. the problem is that you are not able to stress other components to find your problem.

Also, have you updated all of your motherboard drivers?
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