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27 Mar 2014
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#1541
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Quote: Originally Posted by whs
Thanks Steve for the answer. I did not know that.
Yes, thank you. I didn't know that either.
@ A Guy:
I feel better now. Thanks.
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Mellon Labs (custom build)
OS Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual boot
CPU AMD FX 8350 Vishera @ 4200
Motherboard ASUS M5A97 R2.0
Memory 16 GB Mushkin Blackline DDR3-2400 @ 1866 (9-10-10-10-31)
Graphics Card XFX Radeon R9 280 Double D Black Edition
Sound Card Realtek HD Audio on MB. Sounds great.
Monitor(s) Displays Acer 24", Acer 22"
Screen Resolution 3840 x 1080
Keyboard Logitech G710+
Mouse Logitech G500s
PSU Corsair TX-750
Case CoolerMaster HAF 912+
Cooling Coolermaster Seidon 240M Liquid AIO. 6 case fans
Hard Drives 1 x Mushkin Chronos 120 GB SSD (Win 10)
1 x Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB SSD (Win 7)
1 x WD 1TB SATA Blue
1 x WD 1TB SATA Green
Internet Speed Much better since I got fiber, but still way overpriced.
Antivirus MSE, Malware Bytes for scanning
Browser Firefox
Other Info Corsair VOID USB headphones.
A Mellon Labs X-1 - LCD Smartie driven system status display.
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number UNDER CONSTRUCTION
OS Windows 10 Pro/ Windows 10 Pro Insider
CPU i7-8700K
Motherboard Asus Maximux X Apex
Memory 16 GB G Skill Trident 3200C14
Graphics Card EVGA GTX 1080 TI FTW 3
Sound Card On Board
Monitor(s) Displays 3 X Asus 27"
Screen Resolution 1920X1080
Keyboard Logitech G510s/ Logitech G13
Mouse Logitech G502
PSU EVGA 1050 W
Case Phanteks Enthoo Luxe TG
Cooling Corsair H105
Hard Drives 1 M.2 Samsung 960 250 GB, 1 M.2 Samsung 960 500 GB, 2 X Samsung 850 500GB
Internet Speed 24/1
Antivirus ESET/MBAM Pro/SAS Pro
Browser Chrome/ Firefox
Other Info 2nd Rig i7-5930K, Asus X99 Deluxe, 16 GB G Skill DDR4-2800, Seasonic 1050W, Samsung M.2 250 GB, 2XSamsung 840 Pro 256 GB, Corsair H105, EVGA GTX 980 Classified, Phanteks Enthoo Prom M TG case, windows 10 Enterprise and Pro
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30 Mar 2014
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#1543
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I only came back to the forum to get help with a keyboard problem, but I'll play this game while I am here. Two Samsung 256Gb Pro in raid0 for OS. Attached to SATA ports 0/1 on X79-UD5 with Intel Enterprise Driver. I have seen someone who got just over the 1Gb/s with this setup. I couldn't quite manage that, but what really impresses me is the 4K performance.
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Gigabyte
OS Windows 7 Pro 64bit
CPU 3930K
Motherboard X79-UD5
Memory 32Gb DDR3 1600
Graphics Card GeForce GTX 570
Sound Card none
Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2709W, LG 24EB23 (in portrait mode)
Screen Resolution both 1920 x 1200
Keyboard Logitech G110
Mouse Logitech Performance MX and Razer Mamba (both connected)
PSU ADATA 750W
Case Coolermaster Storm Trooper (full tower)
Cooling Intel RTS2011LC (water)
Hard Drives 2 x Samsung 256Gb Pro in raid0 (OS)
2 x 6th Gen 1Tb VelociRaptor raid0 (Projects)
2 x 1Tb WD Black raid0 (My Docs, Exports)
300Gb VelociRaptor (Photoshop scratch)
18Tb in total over 14 drives including 5 USB3 externals
Internet Speed Shite :-(
Antivirus f-secure
Browser IE11
Other Info full Creative Cloud subscription
01 Apr 2014
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#1544
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I just bought an Samsung EVO 120, I didn't install the software yet. I was going to buy a Samsung Pro but in my opinion the numbers between the two are almost identical, plus I saved $50 so I spent it on other PC hardware
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built
OS Windows 10 Pro
CPU Core2Quad (2.6 Ghz)
Motherboard nVidia 775
Memory 8 Gigs DDR2
Graphics Card Geforce Titan Black
Sound Card Motherboard Audio
Monitor(s) Displays 25" Asus LCD
Screen Resolution 1680x1050
Keyboard Logitech
Mouse Logitech - I love logitech mouses
PSU 850 Watts
Case Mid-Size
Hard Drives 120 Gig SSD
60 Gig SSD
750 Gig HDD
Internet Speed DSL 25Mbps - Although extremely expensive
Antivirus Microsoft Anti-Virus
Browser FireFox 36.x
01 Apr 2014
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#1545
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Quote: Originally Posted by JerometheGiraff
I just bought an Samsung EVO 120, I didn't install the software yet. I was going to buy a Samsung Pro but in my opinion the numbers between the two are almost identical, plus I saved $50 so I spent it on other PC hardware 
I had got as far as ordering a pair of 250Gb EVO when I discovered that they don't work well in any raid configuration. In Fact Samsung specifically advise against raiding EVO drives. So I had a mad rush getting on to the supplier and changing the order to a pair of Pros.
I get all my hardware advice from the Adobe Premiere Pro Hardware forum, as they really know their stuff there. They didn't like that I wanted to put my OS on a raid0, but I do a lot more Photoshop than Premier Pro, so I went ahead anyway. This is the thread, and there is a link to another relevant thread
Adobe Community: How To Install OS on Raid0?
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Gigabyte
OS Windows 7 Pro 64bit
CPU 3930K
Motherboard X79-UD5
Memory 32Gb DDR3 1600
Graphics Card GeForce GTX 570
Sound Card none
Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2709W, LG 24EB23 (in portrait mode)
Screen Resolution both 1920 x 1200
Keyboard Logitech G110
Mouse Logitech Performance MX and Razer Mamba (both connected)
PSU ADATA 750W
Case Coolermaster Storm Trooper (full tower)
Cooling Intel RTS2011LC (water)
Hard Drives 2 x Samsung 256Gb Pro in raid0 (OS)
2 x 6th Gen 1Tb VelociRaptor raid0 (Projects)
2 x 1Tb WD Black raid0 (My Docs, Exports)
300Gb VelociRaptor (Photoshop scratch)
18Tb in total over 14 drives including 5 USB3 externals
Internet Speed Shite :-(
Antivirus f-secure
Browser IE11
Other Info full Creative Cloud subscription
01 Apr 2014
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#1546
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I think Peru Bob on the Adobe forum is right. Raid will not buy any significant performance advantage. The access time for Raid is the same as for a single unit and the OS performance is driven by the access time.
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My System Specs |
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System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207
Keyboard with trackball - no mices
Mouse Trackball mice
Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Internet Speed DSL 6000
02 Apr 2014
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#1547
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Quote: Originally Posted by whs
I think Peru Bob on the Adobe forum is right. Raid will not buy any significant performance advantage. The access time for Raid is the same as for a single unit and the OS performance is driven by the access time.
This is completely true. The only numbers of any importance to anyone using a single SSD or SSD + HDD setup are the Random 4K's(not 4K QD32/64) and access times. RAID 0 affects neither of them. Sequential read/writes will become important when you have multiple, large capacity SSD's and you transfer files between them. As of now, anyone using an SSD/HDD setup are limited to the speed of the HDD which is on average 100-150 MB/s versus 500-500 MB/s for an SSD.
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built
OS Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
CPU Intel Core i5-3570K @ 4.5GHz
Motherboard Asus Sabertooth Z77
Memory Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4x4) @1866MHz CL 9-9-9-24 1T
Graphics Card EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW
Sound Card Onboard Audio
Monitor(s) Displays Dell S2309W
Screen Resolution 1920x1080
Keyboard Max Nighthawk X8 Mechanical keyboard
Mouse Mionix Naos 7000
PSU Seasonic X750 80+ Gold Full Modular
Case Antec Eleven Hundred Super Mid Tower
Cooling Intel Liquid Cooler
Hard Drives Samsung 830 128GB SSD - OS
(4) Seagate 5TB HDD
(1) Seagate 2TB HDD
Internet Speed 50 Mbps Down / 10 Mbps Up
Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials/Malwarebytes Anti-Malware
Browser Chrome/Firefox
Other Info Klipsch ProMedia 2.1's
Asus RT-N66R Wireless Router
03 Apr 2014
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#1548
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Hi Kelly, long time no see.
I think Steve was going to RAID two SSDs to see what happens.
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech
OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU
Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3
Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 1866MHz @ 2133MHz 2x8GB
Graphics Card ASUS GTX650TIB-DC2OC-2GD5, (650TI Boost)
Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1
Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD
Screen Resolution 1920x1080
Keyboard E-Z Eyes, bright yellow keys with large characters
Mouse steelseries SENSEI Laser Pro Gaming
PSU Corsair HX650W
Case Inwin Dragon Rider
Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM
Hard Drives Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD for OS, 500GB Seagate Constellation (Enterprise drive) for Data
Internet Speed 48-51Mbs Mbs down, 11 Mbs up Xfinity Cable
Antivirus Norton Internet Security 2013
Browser IE 10, Opera, Pale Moon if needed
Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power supply, 1.21 gigawatts.
03 Apr 2014
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#1549
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Hey Gary! Feels good to be active around here again. IF there are any measurable differences, the risks of RAID 0(to me) aren't worth it. I still don't think it will improve boot time, load time, or anything important. It will almost double your Sequential Read/Write speeds(which most of us can't take advantage of), and it will pump your Random 4K QD 32/64 up quite a bit. Most of us generally operate in the range of QD 1-7 or 8, so QD's of 32 or 64 don't mean much.
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built
OS Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
CPU Intel Core i5-3570K @ 4.5GHz
Motherboard Asus Sabertooth Z77
Memory Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4x4) @1866MHz CL 9-9-9-24 1T
Graphics Card EVGA GTX 750 Ti FTW
Sound Card Onboard Audio
Monitor(s) Displays Dell S2309W
Screen Resolution 1920x1080
Keyboard Max Nighthawk X8 Mechanical keyboard
Mouse Mionix Naos 7000
PSU Seasonic X750 80+ Gold Full Modular
Case Antec Eleven Hundred Super Mid Tower
Cooling Intel Liquid Cooler
Hard Drives Samsung 830 128GB SSD - OS
(4) Seagate 5TB HDD
(1) Seagate 2TB HDD
Internet Speed 50 Mbps Down / 10 Mbps Up
Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials/Malwarebytes Anti-Malware
Browser Chrome/Firefox
Other Info Klipsch ProMedia 2.1's
Asus RT-N66R Wireless Router
03 Apr 2014
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#1550
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Kelly, I have done it in the past, just to see how it works, plus the fact I have always advised against it for the reasons you mentioned, but like to see for myself before advising anyone. It did not help and what you said is absolutely correct. I have, as Gary said, thought seriously about doing it again. The only advantage of Raid 0 is the increased space from combining 2 SSDs. Speed is not affected at all nor is access times. usable space is improved. That is the only advantage if you can live with the risks, which I can due to the fact I am a backup freak. I'm not concerned about losing anything. We are happy you are around more, you add much to these forums.
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number UNDER CONSTRUCTION
OS Windows 10 Pro/ Windows 10 Pro Insider
CPU i7-8700K
Motherboard Asus Maximux X Apex
Memory 16 GB G Skill Trident 3200C14
Graphics Card EVGA GTX 1080 TI FTW 3
Sound Card On Board
Monitor(s) Displays 3 X Asus 27"
Screen Resolution 1920X1080
Keyboard Logitech G510s/ Logitech G13
Mouse Logitech G502
PSU EVGA 1050 W
Case Phanteks Enthoo Luxe TG
Cooling Corsair H105
Hard Drives 1 M.2 Samsung 960 250 GB, 1 M.2 Samsung 960 500 GB, 2 X Samsung 850 500GB
Internet Speed 24/1
Antivirus ESET/MBAM Pro/SAS Pro
Browser Chrome/ Firefox
Other Info 2nd Rig i7-5930K, Asus X99 Deluxe, 16 GB G Skill DDR4-2800, Seasonic 1050W, Samsung M.2 250 GB, 2XSamsung 840 Pro 256 GB, Corsair H105, EVGA GTX 980 Classified, Phanteks Enthoo Prom M TG case, windows 10 Enterprise and Pro
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