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11 Mar 2012
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#61
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Quote: Originally Posted by whs
Let the system run on idle over night. The garbage collection may fix it.
My ignorance Wolfgang but I thought garbage collection was handled by the firmware and Windows 7 when you turned the system off provided TRIM is enabled. Definitely a question.
Is a manual garbage collection utility useful?
I wonder if the Crucial M4 firmware (0309) could have a problem.
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build
OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
CPU Intel i7 2600k
Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB
Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+)
Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350
Screen Resolution 1920x1080
Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless)
Mouse Logitech MK520
PSU Seasonic M12II 520W
Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60
Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+
Hard Drives Samsung 850 Pro SSD 256GB, Samsung SSD 840 120GB, Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS x2
Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps
Antivirus Norton Security Premium, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC)
Browser FireFox
Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1
11 Mar 2012
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#62
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Quote: Originally Posted by mjf

Quote: Originally Posted by whs
Let the system run on idle over night. The garbage collection may fix it.
My ignorance Wolfgang but I thought garbage collection was handled by the firmware and Windows 7 when you turned the system off provided TRIM is enabled. Definitely a question.
Is a manual garbage collection utility useful?
I wonder if the Crucial M4 firmware (0309) could have a problem.
I think it would be difficult for the garbage collection to work when there is no power - or??
Secure erase is probably useful. I never do that because I do not worry too much about R/W timings. For me it is the access time that counts. And that is a steady 0.1ms +/- on all my SSDs.
And yeah, we seem to get some negative vibes regarding the M4. Mine has deteriorated too (in R/W speed). But as I said, that is not something I worry about. It is still plenty fast. Win8 in Virtual Box boots in 8 seconds. If it went any faster, I would get whiplash.
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My System Specs |
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System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207
Keyboard with trackball - no mices
Mouse Trackball mice
Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Internet Speed DSL 6000
11 Mar 2012
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#63
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Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe
Not with my 128GB but I am trying to figure out what is going on with one of my 64GB drives now. My sequential speeds have dropped to about 1/2 of what they were and the 4K-64 is much lower.
What board Steve? It is the oddist thing, but I saw some really low speeds. I ended up setting the drive to hot-swap in BIOS, then, even though it didn't show up hot swap in Windows, the bench went back up to normal.
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built (GeneO industries)/Model 4
OS Windows 10 Pro. EFI boot partition, full EFI boot
CPU i7 4770k 4.4GHz (44-44-43-43 turbo) @ 1.248V
Motherboard ASUS Maximus VI Hero
Memory 16GB (8GBx2) @2200 MHz G.skill Sniper 10-11-10-30-1, 1.6V
Graphics Card MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G
Sound Card Onboard SupremeFX Audio
Monitor(s) Displays NEC Spectraview 2490WUXi-SV
Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200
Keyboard Cooler Master Storm Quickfire Rapid - Brown
Mouse Logitech G602
PSU Seasonic X-850 (2012 KM3 model)
Case Fractal Design Define R4
Cooling NH-D14, NF-F12, NF-A15; NF-P14, NF-P12,NF-A14, S12A PWM
Hard Drives Samsung 850 Pro 256GB (OS), Samsung 2x 128GB 840 Pro SSD in RAID0, 3x WD Blue 6Gb/s 1TB RAID0, WD 2TB Black external USB 3.0, 2TB WD20EARS Green external USB 3.0, 2x 500GB Seagate and 1 750 GB external USB, 1x 350GB external USB3
Internet Speed 126.4 Mb/s down, 24.3 Mb/s up
Other Info USB 3.0 x8 , SATA III x8, eSATA, USB 2.0 x6. Samsung DVD R/W drive.
WEI: CPU 7.8, Memory 7.9, Graphics 7.9, Disk 7.9
11 Mar 2012
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#64
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Quote: Originally Posted by tw33k
My 2 year old C300 still performing beautifully
Attachment 201058
Nearly identical to what my brand new samsung was doing... until I realized it was in ide mode.
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My System Specs |
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System Manufacturer/Model Number Insane hobo technologies. ;-)
OS Windows 7 x64
CPU Intel i7 2600k
Motherboard Asrock z68 extreme 4 gen 3
Memory G.skill Ripjaw 16gigs @ 1866
Graphics Card Nvidia gtx580 (evga)
Sound Card Integrated HD audio + hdmi
Monitor(s) Displays 24" ASUS widescreen + 42" insignia
Screen Resolution 1080p (1920x1080)
Keyboard Microsoft wireless 3000 (v2)
Mouse MS - wireless 5000 (bluetrack)
PSU 1 kilowatt SLI/Crossfire rated Silverstone modular
Case NZXT Phantom + additional 220 fan
Cooling Zalmann
Hard Drives 128 Samsung 830
256 Samsung 840
3 x 1tb storage drive (various)
1 western digital 1tb (eSATA)
1 Seagate 1tb (eSATA)
Internet Speed depends on if you ask me or my provider.
Other Info The above information is provided as is, and the author assumes no responsibility for issues it may cause with your sanity or fanboyism.
12 Mar 2012
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#65
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Until these issues are resolved I am not sure we should be suggesting CRUCIAL M4 is a good choice. SSD in general is a new technology and maybe most users who have a little patience should stick with spinners.
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build
OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
CPU Intel i7 2600k
Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB
Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+)
Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350
Screen Resolution 1920x1080
Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless)
Mouse Logitech MK520
PSU Seasonic M12II 520W
Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60
Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+
Hard Drives Samsung 850 Pro SSD 256GB, Samsung SSD 840 120GB, Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS x2
Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps
Antivirus Norton Security Premium, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC)
Browser FireFox
Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1
12 Mar 2012
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#66
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GeneO, It's on my Asrock P67 hooked up to the Intel Sata 3 ports in AHCI mode. I had Windows 8 on it in a sata dock, but noticed it seeming slower. I put it back into the computer and was the same. After a few reboots, it won't even boot now.
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number UNDER CONSTRUCTION
OS Windows 10 Pro/ Windows 10 Pro Insider
CPU i7-8700K
Motherboard Asus Maximux X Apex
Memory 16 GB G Skill Trident 3200C14
Graphics Card EVGA GTX 1080 TI FTW 3
Sound Card On Board
Monitor(s) Displays 3 X Asus 27"
Screen Resolution 1920X1080
Keyboard Logitech G510s/ Logitech G13
Mouse Logitech G502
PSU EVGA 1050 W
Case Phanteks Enthoo Luxe TG
Cooling Corsair H105
Hard Drives 1 M.2 Samsung 960 250 GB, 1 M.2 Samsung 960 500 GB, 2 X Samsung 850 500GB
Internet Speed 24/1
Antivirus ESET/MBAM Pro/SAS Pro
Browser Chrome/ Firefox
Other Info 2nd Rig i7-5930K, Asus X99 Deluxe, 16 GB G Skill DDR4-2800, Seasonic 1050W, Samsung M.2 250 GB, 2XSamsung 840 Pro 256 GB, Corsair H105, EVGA GTX 980 Classified, Phanteks Enthoo Prom M TG case, windows 10 Enterprise and Pro
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12 Mar 2012
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#67
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Steve , sorry to hear that.
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built (GeneO industries)/Model 4
OS Windows 10 Pro. EFI boot partition, full EFI boot
CPU i7 4770k 4.4GHz (44-44-43-43 turbo) @ 1.248V
Motherboard ASUS Maximus VI Hero
Memory 16GB (8GBx2) @2200 MHz G.skill Sniper 10-11-10-30-1, 1.6V
Graphics Card MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G
Sound Card Onboard SupremeFX Audio
Monitor(s) Displays NEC Spectraview 2490WUXi-SV
Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200
Keyboard Cooler Master Storm Quickfire Rapid - Brown
Mouse Logitech G602
PSU Seasonic X-850 (2012 KM3 model)
Case Fractal Design Define R4
Cooling NH-D14, NF-F12, NF-A15; NF-P14, NF-P12,NF-A14, S12A PWM
Hard Drives Samsung 850 Pro 256GB (OS), Samsung 2x 128GB 840 Pro SSD in RAID0, 3x WD Blue 6Gb/s 1TB RAID0, WD 2TB Black external USB 3.0, 2TB WD20EARS Green external USB 3.0, 2x 500GB Seagate and 1 750 GB external USB, 1x 350GB external USB3
Internet Speed 126.4 Mb/s down, 24.3 Mb/s up
Other Info USB 3.0 x8 , SATA III x8, eSATA, USB 2.0 x6. Samsung DVD R/W drive.
WEI: CPU 7.8, Memory 7.9, Graphics 7.9, Disk 7.9
12 Mar 2012
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#68
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Drives fail, it happens all the time. I've bought mechanicals that have lasted a decade and I've bought mechanicals that lasted a week.
I don't see any reason to expect that ssd's will be any different. I am however, currently only suggesting the upgrade to people I know already have newer motherboard hardware.
We seem to finally be getting to the point where they have straightened out the vast majority of the firmware related problems. So progress is being made.
I have always refrained from telling people with older systems to make the upgrade as problems seem to multiply when that is done.
I'm perfectly happy with my samsung. I was actually happy with it even before I realized it was running in ide mode and fixed it.
It probably won't have an enormously long life as I haven't taken all hte steps I could to ensure it's longevity, but I am still very happy with it.
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My System Specs |
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System Manufacturer/Model Number Insane hobo technologies. ;-)
OS Windows 7 x64
CPU Intel i7 2600k
Motherboard Asrock z68 extreme 4 gen 3
Memory G.skill Ripjaw 16gigs @ 1866
Graphics Card Nvidia gtx580 (evga)
Sound Card Integrated HD audio + hdmi
Monitor(s) Displays 24" ASUS widescreen + 42" insignia
Screen Resolution 1080p (1920x1080)
Keyboard Microsoft wireless 3000 (v2)
Mouse MS - wireless 5000 (bluetrack)
PSU 1 kilowatt SLI/Crossfire rated Silverstone modular
Case NZXT Phantom + additional 220 fan
Cooling Zalmann
Hard Drives 128 Samsung 830
256 Samsung 840
3 x 1tb storage drive (various)
1 western digital 1tb (eSATA)
1 Seagate 1tb (eSATA)
Internet Speed depends on if you ask me or my provider.
Other Info The above information is provided as is, and the author assumes no responsibility for issues it may cause with your sanity or fanboyism.
13 Mar 2012
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#69
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I'm thinking of RMAing my Crucial M4 128GB. Another person on the Crucial forum had the same problem with very low 4K-64 speeds and nothing they did could fix it. What do you think?
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Own build
OS Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
CPU Intel i7 2600k
Motherboard ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws (DDR3-1600) 2x4GB
Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTS 450; Intel HD Graphics 3000(GT2+)
Monitor(s) Displays Dell Ultrasharp IPS panel U2311H, Samsung SyncMaster P2350
Screen Resolution 1920x1080
Keyboard Logitech MK520 (wireless)
Mouse Logitech MK520
PSU Seasonic M12II 520W
Case Lian Li Lancool PC-K60
Cooling Case: 1x120mm, 3x140mm CPU: Hyper 212+
Hard Drives Samsung 850 Pro SSD 256GB, Samsung SSD 840 120GB, Seagates 1TB Barracuda ST31000528AS x2
Internet Speed 6-7 Mbps
Antivirus Norton Security Premium, Malwarebytes on 2 (MSE on 3rd PC)
Browser FireFox
Other Info Audio: Logitech Z523 2.1
13 Mar 2012
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#70
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I think it may have been me. Maybe not. LOL. I may go RMA if they will too, though I am hoping they will come out with a new firmware...
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built (GeneO industries)/Model 4
OS Windows 10 Pro. EFI boot partition, full EFI boot
CPU i7 4770k 4.4GHz (44-44-43-43 turbo) @ 1.248V
Motherboard ASUS Maximus VI Hero
Memory 16GB (8GBx2) @2200 MHz G.skill Sniper 10-11-10-30-1, 1.6V
Graphics Card MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G
Sound Card Onboard SupremeFX Audio
Monitor(s) Displays NEC Spectraview 2490WUXi-SV
Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200
Keyboard Cooler Master Storm Quickfire Rapid - Brown
Mouse Logitech G602
PSU Seasonic X-850 (2012 KM3 model)
Case Fractal Design Define R4
Cooling NH-D14, NF-F12, NF-A15; NF-P14, NF-P12,NF-A14, S12A PWM
Hard Drives Samsung 850 Pro 256GB (OS), Samsung 2x 128GB 840 Pro SSD in RAID0, 3x WD Blue 6Gb/s 1TB RAID0, WD 2TB Black external USB 3.0, 2TB WD20EARS Green external USB 3.0, 2x 500GB Seagate and 1 750 GB external USB, 1x 350GB external USB3
Internet Speed 126.4 Mb/s down, 24.3 Mb/s up
Other Info USB 3.0 x8 , SATA III x8, eSATA, USB 2.0 x6. Samsung DVD R/W drive.
WEI: CPU 7.8, Memory 7.9, Graphics 7.9, Disk 7.9
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