looking for better monitors

whs said:

In Germany I saw flat panel TVs with 600Hz. No idea whether similar sets are available in the US, but if they are, that may be an alternative.

holy * now that would be a treat now wouldnt it lol

A monitor with higher htz can be much cleaner when game play is well over 60fps. Also it would be more cleaner while playing high animations like Blue ray.

alishathomaz said:

A monitor with higher htz can be much cleaner when game play is well over 60fps. Also it would be more cleaner while playing high animations like Blue ray.

that was my point from the beginning, dont recall if i made it lol, thanks for backing me up lol...

alishathomaz said:

A monitor with higher htz can be much cleaner when game play is well over 60fps. Also it would be more cleaner while playing high animations like Blue ray.

You are falling into the marketing tactics, however. If it is above the limitations of the human eye, it won't matter.

Here's the best analogy I've ever read on the subject. If you are looking at two cars, one can do 170 mph and the other can do 190 mph (but costs 20% more), which one do you buy? The answer is...it doesn't matter, and you focus on other features to make the decision.

DeaconFrost said:

alishathomaz said:

A monitor with higher htz can be much cleaner when game play is well over 60fps. Also it would be more cleaner while playing high animations like Blue ray.

You are falling into the marketing tactics, however. If it is above the limitations of the human eye, it won't matter.

Here's the best analogy I've ever read on the subject. If you are looking at two cars, one can do 170 mph and the other can do 190 mph (but costs 20% more), which one do you buy? The answer is...it doesn't matter, and you focus on other features to make the decision.

i am going to try and step back, cuz despite my efforts, your not getting it, but i need to tell you, that is a bad analogy. i would pay extra for 20mph more, granted not on a car that cheap, more likely 180mph-200mph, believe me i would notice the difference! its not about how fast my eyes can see, thats what you dont seem to know about these monitors, you can lower the AAx, increase the AFx and if you are running a game, lets say, 90fps, cuz ur using 2 graphics cards OCd, the fact the it has a split second extra to render that extra 30 frames, means that it now its not making a blury, jumbled up soup of the extra frames it cant render as it doesnt have time to do so, meaning, whether we NOTICE or not, we do SEE it, and the outcome is NOTICEABLE. and it works also for games running under 60fps too which is the mericle here!

when i was younger i could look closely and actually count out the frames as a show on tv whent by, i can still do it, i can tell a 5fps difference in a game, despite people telling me i cant, i can do allot of things, visually, and audibly, that people say you just cant, and im not the only one, these tests are made by doctors with no actual experience themselves, they are testing if our eyes or minds or ears work differently than someone who cant, if they dont, than its ""not possible!"" and thats where these misconceptions come from! actually also some guy in his basement with now job who just went ""hmmmmm... NOPE"" and said it wasnt humanly possible to sound smart, lol

whs said:

Here is some more info that may help you. On the second Panasonic read the details explanations that are on the right side of the 'details' page. And the last page explains the technology used.

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-VIERA-TC-P65ST30-65-Inch-Plasma/dp/B004MME76U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1331315879&sr=8-1

http://www.bizrate.com/television-tv/2437795922/index__ctr_brand--43064__ctr_pos--BR%3BUS%3B7S%3Bhot%2FHotRedesignSRP%3B1%3B30%3BProductListPod%3Bproductpod%2Ftest%2FProductPodRedesi gnCatS6904%3Bvisible%3B2%3B__ctr_rel--274.255127.html#details

http://www.tvlampsnbulbs.com/2009/03/what-does-600hz-subfield-motion-mean/

that is genius! thats not even working like a normal still frame still frame, i love it lol

Thornton said:

i am going to try and step back, cuz despite my efforts, your not getting it, but i need to tell you, that is a bad analogy. i would pay extra for 20mph more, granted not on a car that cheap, more likely 180mph-200mph, believe me i would notice the difference!

I'm not getting it? That example works perfectly. If the speed limit is 65 mph on a highway around here, and I drive at 75 mph....there's no way the upper limit of their speed capabilities come into play. It's a perfectly legit example, and one used by trade mags and review sites quite often. If you would be a person who'd pay extra for a that feature, knowing full well you'd never drive anywhere near that speed, then you have some major money management issues.

If you want to sit there and claim you have mutant, superhuman vision capabilities, then so be it. Spend the extra money. I was trying to explain something to you to save you some cash...something that 99% of the members on this board would appreciate. (And do, by evidence of the rep I've gotten from my comments here). However, if you want to fall into the very small, but increasing percentage of people asking for help than copping a 'tude with those willing to respond...then all I have to say is good luck to you. Just remember going forward...when you ask for help...you might not always like the answers you get back..but that doesn't make people wrong, or give you a position to say "someone just doesn't get it".