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Windows 7: BC f4 error when heavily using my new HDD

28 Apr 2012   #21

Windows 7 Ultimate x64

Edit function seems to dislike me

Well my problems aren't over. Running something from my new disk killed the system, set all fans to max, and froze it that way. Took a power off/on to get control back. next to nothing on the event logs, but there was a message from 3 minutes before that from the atapi again: event 11 "The driver detected a controller error on \Device\Ide\IdePort2". from this point I don't know the best way forward, although I'll be keeping researching to see if this could be a driver error or not

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28 Apr 2012   #22

Windows 7 Ultimate x64

I take it you got the error after removing the problematic 250GB?
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28 Apr 2012   #23

Windows 7 Ultimate x64

aye, this is after. I'm trying to research the fault but everything I seem seems to be either related to someone trying to use the disk as a boot drive (master Boot Record doesn't support large partitions, but as it's an aux this is automatically a GUID partition table, which supports way more). I've checked drivers, the driver for "disk drive" for windows hasn't changed since 2006, there are no BIOS updates for my mobo, there isn't a new firmware for my disk, no new drivers for any of my SATA controllers either.

I've seen a couple of stories about ASUS motherboards and Seagate drives having bit of a tiff, but I don't seem to have the problems others are having, Frankly I'm lost on this one.
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29 Apr 2012   #24

Windows 7 Ultimate x64

update. Had this issue with most of my steam applications, and still getting the occasional ATAPI controller event too, although it seems less related to the crashes. Updating my graphics driver, I've been joyously reminded of just how bad Sapphire are for making cards incompatible with most ATI drivers and catalyst versions. I am currently trapped on safe mode playing the old trial and error step by step roll back to find the last stable version. with my connection and with 160mb driver packs...that's a 30 minute download per version. For reference, the crash I get from the wrong version is:

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
OS Version: 6.1.7601.
Locale ID: 2057

Additional information about the problem:
BCCode: 116
BCP1: FFFFFA8006C874E0
BCP2: FFFFF880044086D8
BCP4: 0000000000000003
OS Version: 6_1_7601
Service Pack: 1_0
Product: 256_1

I've also found the following new errors:

sptd: "Driver detected an internal error in its data structures for ."
- <Event xmlns="">
- <System>
<Provider Name="sptd" />
<EventID Qualifiers="49156">4</EventID>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2012-04-29T11:22:59.868007700Z" />
<Security />
- <EventData>
<Data />

I also get the following from the Service Control Manager
"The following boot-start or system-start driver(s) failed to load:
The time for that looks like it might be from just after starting safe mode though

I would be really grateful if anyone has any ideas on root causes. driver downdates here I come
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29 Apr 2012   #25

Windows 7 Ultimate x64

Have you run memory tests?
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29 Apr 2012   #26

Windows 7 Ultimate x64

no, I've not yet seen any reason to suspect my memory and it's not particularly old. I didn't think the RAM was likely to have any influence over the SATA bus? Do you have a recommended test in mind?
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29 Apr 2012   #27

Windows 7 Ultimate x64

Memtest86+, from is included in the Ultimate Boot CD: Ultimate Boot CD - Overview. Burn the UBCD iso to CD, boot your suspect machine from it, and run the memory tests.
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29 Apr 2012   #28

Windows 7 Ultimate x64

believe it or not...i dont have any blank cds in spite of having had 2 dvd dual layer writers. I don't think i've written one in about 8 years, not since flash drives.

I'm becoming increasingly suspect this has all been caused by steam doing an update that breaks it. After completely uninstalling it (it will take me about 3 weeks 24/7 to recover the apps on my connection) it now wont reinstally, claiming it doesnt have access rights to itself. I'm taking that up with steam support. Everything else seems to be working except for that, I still wish I knew for sure that this has been causing all the errors, but it's always hard to tell. I have heard stories recently of steam overwriting driver dlls though, if it's true it's feasible.

For now I'm going to keep things on the old windows default driver for my graphics card: it's always worked. I'll just have to keep an eye on the disk and make sure it really is stable
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29 Apr 2012   #29

Windows 7 Ultimate x64

Well, if you do feel the need to test the memory, and if you've got a spare USB flashdrive available, UBCD can be install on it and you can boot it from there. There are instructions on how to do that in the FAQ (link on the left side of that page).
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29 Apr 2012   #30

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit

What god-forsaken country are you in that you can not buy a CD? They are cheap and readily available all over europe.

For USB (from the memtest86+ site)
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