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Windows 7: Can't boot all the way with 4 gb.

03 Sep 2009   #11
Xplaced

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
One possible problem that has not been mentioned is that it may not be the fourth RAM module that is faulty but the Fourth slot on the motherboard - just a thought
Ha! Hmm. That is a thought. However! I was using 4 sticks previously to this, so it shouldn't be bad unless it just now coincidentally went bad. But I should be able to pop my 4 old sticks back in to test that theory. I will as a last resort (I'm having to actually use my PC for work so it is difficult to turn it off, I'm just doing it when I get chances to mess with it).

Before I put the new RAM in this morning, it was running successfully on 4 sticks of ram, all 512mb each. I've got the same setup going now all with 4 1gb sticks, except with the problem I'm having. I can use 3 1gb sticks ok!


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03 Sep 2009   #12
kplu

XP & 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
One possible problem that has not been mentioned is that it may not be the fourth RAM module that is faulty but the Fourth slot on the motherboard - just a thought
Exactly.


Also: do disable the devices. Everything you rule out is one less variable that makes it harder to pin down the real issue. Disable/remove all non essential hardware.

Memtest86+ - Advanced Memory Diagnostic Tool
Go there, download memtest86+ (supports 64-bit) and burn it to CD. Put 1 stick in slot 1, run the test. It is a pretty intensive test, so passing a single time should mean you are good. 1 Single error also means you are probably not good. If it's good, take out the first stick and pop a stick 2 into slot 2. repear for stick and slot 2, 3 & 4. If all pass it could be something else. This should keep you busy for several hours.
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03 Sep 2009   #13
kplu

XP & 7
 
 

I just realized that some mobo's are picky about where sticks of ram are, and you might not boot without adhering to their guidelines. If you run into a problem with a stick in slots 2,3 or 4 try just using slot 1. Once you have each stick tested: try all 4 at once.
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03 Sep 2009   #14
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x3, Ubuntu
 
 

If you've had the slot working it's unlikely that it's suddenly stopped working (though nothing is impossible), I have heard reports of systems that work fine with certain memory configurations but not with others but do not consider myself enough of an expert to offer any real advice.
None of our Memory experts appear to be online at the moment but if I can will try to point one of them to this thread and see if we can get your issue solved
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03 Sep 2009   #15
Xplaced

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Thanks for the input so far. I could be wrong and I don't have any data to back this up, but I just don't think the new memory is bad.

Like I said, I can use any stick in any slot as long as I am only using 3gb and it runs great. The only problem I have is Windows won't boot past the Starting Windows screen when there are 4 gigabytes of RAM in it.

Plus I also ran the Memtest program suggested, with all 4 sticks in the slots, and it found 0 errors and reported the proper amount of memory in the system as well.

Why would I put one stick in and scan them individually when Memtest will scan all 4 in all the slots, and show 0 errors? :\ I'm confused as to why that would need to be done.
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03 Sep 2009   #16
skunksmash

SEVEN x64
 
 

Hi Xplaced...


ok........ after checking your boards specs ''on paper'' there should be no issue running up to 8GB..??

you say your previous sticks worked in all slots.... so a bad DIMM slot is unlikely.

you also say the BIOS reads the full 4GB, so as far as the motherboard & sticks are concerned....they're functioning.

this basically leaves us with the OS itself limiting the available RAM... reinstalling ''7'' with the full 4GB in is gonna be my immediate suggestion, i know its a chore but S/W can be very finicky when it wants to be.

i also found this......, it appears to be someone else having trouble with slow boot running the full 4GB on that board, even though the BIOS detects it... could be coincidence..??, or it could be an inherent issue with that board..??
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03 Sep 2009   #17
cheetah1

Windows 7 RC Build 7100
 
 

I have a somewhat related issue:
When I previously ran Windows Vista X64 it wouldn't boot with 4 gig in, only with 3 (1 gig sticks). I never found a solution, so I ended up giving up with the last stick in my desktop drawer.

Now that I have installed the Windows 7 rc I remembered the stick in my drawer, so I took it out and put it in my computer. All of a sudden it boots! I was intensley happy.

BUT

The system information says "Installed memory (RAM): 4,00 GB (2,98 GB usable)", and the Resource manager claims that 1041 MB is "Hardware reserved".

This would be perfectly understandable, I have a video card that shares memory, I run a raid controller and so on.
If it weren't for the fact that when I run it on 3 GB it only puts 1 (one) MB as "Hardware reserved" and I get more usable (3071 opposed to 3055 MB) memory..

This is getting somewhat frustrating.

BIOS recognizes 4096MB with all 4 sticks installed.
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04 Sep 2009   #18
Xplaced

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

@cheetah1: I read something about this somewhere, my friend had the same problem and we fixed it. I'll try to look that up again and see if it relates to you and post back here.

@skunksmash: I am going to reload my OS with all 4gb loaded. I think it is, for whatever reason, an OS problem. We'll soon find out.
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04 Sep 2009   #19
Xplaced

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

cheetah1, If it's the same problem my friend had, it's a BIOS setting that has to be enabled. Something about remapping memory. Can you tell me the motherboard you have? He has some type of Asus motherboard I think, a P52N or something like that.
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04 Sep 2009   #20
Xplaced

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Nuts! Reloading my OS didn't fix it. Windows 7 wouldn't install with the 4gb in there, it only works if 3gb is there. So I went ahead and reinstall the OS anyway to clean up some stuff while I was at it. This makes me think that when I do finally figure this out, if I can put 4gb in there, that I hopefully won't need to reinstall my OS at that point.

I may have found a later BIOS update than I found the other day. If so I'll apply that and see if that helps. However since my BIOS sees 4gb anyway, I don't think that is the problem either. :\
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