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Windows 7: HDD's - the Advertized size vs the Actual size.

08 Sep 2009   #21
Antman

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by squonksc View Post
...But still it's a rip off by the manufacturers because every thing else in the computer world is using the Kilo, Giga and Terra.

1 Gbyte of memory = 1 Gbyte of memory.

1 Gbyte of diskspace = 0.9313226 Gbyte of diskspace

So it is very convenient for them to make this exception in their favor.
If I am not mistaken, many HDDs actually have more capacity on the platters than is actually used. I do not know the technology, but I do recall reading something akin to that while I was researching BER and RAID5.


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08 Sep 2009   #22
fseal

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

They are getting away with something there that's for sure.

Monitor companies were similarly taken to task over tube sizes back in the day (Max tube diagonal reported vs actual screen size assumed). It would be nice if you could buy a "500 gig" drive and actually see "500 gigs" on your computer!
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11 Sep 2009   #23
Geralt

Windows 7 Home Premium (x64)
 
 

Aha! I was always wondering why I only had 465GB instead of the 500GB.

Thanks for the detailed explanation! +Rep.
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16 Sep 2009   #24
Hexmaniac

Windows 7 x64
 
 

C'mon guys, no one is 'getting away' with anything. Computers just represent numbers differently than we do. It 'counts' in binary.

1 Kilobyte = 2^10 = 1024 decimal
1 Megabyte = 2^20 = 1048576 decimal
1 Gigabyte = 2^30 = 1073741824 decimal.

A '500 GIG drive' has 500 billion locations. Count them. Divide it by 2^30 and you get 465.66. It's still 500 billion. You aren't losing storage locations.

If it still bothers you...at least you're getting over on the RAM people. I just bought 12 GB of RAM from OCZ...well they said it was 12 GB...but I'll be damned if my system didn't say I had 12,884,901,888 of RAM. Almost a whole extra GB for FREE!

Just the way it is.
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16 Sep 2009   #25
Zidane24

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Hexmaniac View Post
C'mon guys, no one is 'getting away' with anything. Computers just represent numbers differently than we do. It 'counts' in binary.

1 Kilobyte = 2^10 = 1024 decimal
1 Megabyte = 2^20 = 1048576 decimal
1 Gigabyte = 2^30 = 1073741824 decimal.

A '500 GIG drive' has 500 billion locations. Count them. Divide it by 2^30 and you get 465.66. It's still 500 billion. You aren't losing storage locations.

If it still bothers you...at least you're getting over on the RAM people. I just bought 12 GB of RAM from OCZ...well they said it was 12 GB...but I'll be damned if my system didn't say I had 12,884,901,888 of RAM. Almost a whole extra GB for FREE!

Just the way it is.
Re-read the thread...your missing the point, a vaild one at that
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17 Sep 2009   #26
Luckystar

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 RTM + SP1
 
 

So thats why my so called 750gb reads 698gb.

That must be one of the worst buys ever.

Thanks for the advise

Tip o the scales for you
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17 Sep 2009   #27
zigzag3143

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 

It gets better HD's can have up to 10% bad sectors.
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17 Sep 2009   #28
Hexmaniac

Windows 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Zidane24 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Hexmaniac View Post
C'mon guys, no one is 'getting away' with anything. Computers just represent numbers differently than we do. It 'counts' in binary.

1 Kilobyte = 2^10 = 1024 decimal
1 Megabyte = 2^20 = 1048576 decimal
1 Gigabyte = 2^30 = 1073741824 decimal.

A '500 GIG drive' has 500 billion locations. Count them. Divide it by 2^30 and you get 465.66. It's still 500 billion. You aren't losing storage locations.

If it still bothers you...at least you're getting over on the RAM people. I just bought 12 GB of RAM from OCZ...well they said it was 12 GB...but I'll be damned if my system didn't say I had 12,884,901,888 of RAM. Almost a whole extra GB for FREE!

Just the way it is.
Re-read the thread...your missing the point, a vaild one at that
Actually, I was addressing the two posts directly above mine, not the content of the thread. I am just stating that the prefix of giga- represents 10^9 (1,000,000,000), in which case drive manufacturers are correct in identifying their drive's capacity. A PC represents giga- as 2^30. There is no numerical difference. That's all...
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17 Sep 2009   #29
fseal

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

The manufacturers are correct but it is still misleading. If you polled 100 normal computer users, only a small handful would know why their 500gig drive they bought only shows 486 gig on their computer.

It's an "advertising lie" and it's the best kind, its "technically correct" but it /is/ misleading and confusing. NOONE uses the base 10 representation of a "Gig" on a computer, and that is where the drive size is reported.

You bring up memory, that's a great example. Why is storage in ram reported differently from stoarge on permament media. They are both storage, both storing the same thing and both addressed and size reported in base 2 representaions of a "Gigabyte" (Yes technically a Gibibyte)). Yet for some confusing and inexplicable reason they use two different representations of the word "Gigabyte".
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17 Sep 2009   #30
SquonkSC

Win7 Build 7600 x86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Luckystar View Post
So thats why my so called 750gb reads 698gb.

That must be one of the worst buys ever.

Thanks for the advise

Tip o the scales for you
I guess this guy tipped someone else's scale, because I didn't get it.

What am I going to tell my postpimp?
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