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Windows 7: HDD's - the Advertized size vs the Actual size.

14 Dec 2009   #51
fseal

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

Generally the formatting tool will tell you how many units (Clusters, volumes whatever they call it in what ever tool in whatever OS) there are that you can use for a partition. Just select the max number or "Max Size"? Whatever it shows as the max size in the formatting tool.


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14 Dec 2009   #52
Parker

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

Was using the windows one (start > search > fdisk), and when I did it to the max size, I keep receiving errors so now I'm at 1.31TB/1350.48GB
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14 Dec 2009   #53
fseal

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

Haven't used the fdisk command line in forever I'd do it from the computer management/Disk Magager.

But if you get errors selecting max then there is something wrong. Wither fdisk is not meant to be used like that or the drive is wonky or bios can't handle it's size or somethinglike that
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14 Dec 2009   #54
Parker

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by fseal View Post
Haven't used the fdisk command line in forever I'd do it from the computer management/Disk Magager.

But if you get errors selecting max then there is something wrong. Wither fdisk is not meant to be used like that or the drive is wonky or bios can't handle it's size or somethinglike that
lol oh what I meant is when you search fdisk the Disk Management window comes up not doing it via CMD line sorry, also got another question (probably should of created a thread) but I got a 1.5TB size for storage (NTFS file format) at 4kB which is default, and I also have a 250GB which houses my OS, Windows XP x32 & Windows 7 x64 (may as well clean the HD now so I was thinking of increasing the cluster size to something bigger then 4kB (which from which chkdsk I'm using 4kB) so on the down level, does anyone find any REAL performance gain out of it, and also if I'm using the 250GB just for the OS and where software will install to, if I use say 16kB cluster how big would the 250GB be in the end? Or should I be going a bit bigger to say 32kB or 64kB?
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15 Dec 2009   #55
fseal

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

Bigger cluster sizes will REALLY waste disk space though How much is hard to say exactly, one could write a program to go through your entire HD and calculate the current size of all files and then calculate the waste at 4k or any other cluster size. (Actually there may even be some drive tools that already do this...)

If you were storing nothing but HUGE files like a a video library it would be ok (though performance improvements may still be only a few %) But as an OS or program drive you might not only lose a lot of usable disk space but performance might even DECREASE if the sector size is TOO large.

But a google search for that subject will probably find all kinds of articles about it
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17 Dec 2009   #56
sunnybyfleet

Windows 7
 
 

It isn't an advertising lie. The fault is with the computer using 1024 instead of 1000. If computers reported the figure correctly, it wouldn't be an issue. The only reason we see 1024 is because it is easier for the computer to calculate things that way.
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17 Dec 2009   #57
Zidane24

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sunnybyfleet View Post
It isn't an advertising lie. The fault is with the computer using 1024 instead of 1000. If computers reported the figure correctly, it wouldn't be an issue. The only reason we see 1024 is because it is easier for the computer to calculate things that way.
wow...did you read the thread?

This has been brought up and completely been proven false...it is a measurement system mis-match masked by giving false details of drive space (advertising lie)
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17 Dec 2009   #58
sunnybyfleet

Windows 7
 
 

Yes I did read the entire thread. Show me where it has been "completely proven false". I saw no such thing. How can it proven false, when it isn't?
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17 Dec 2009   #59
fseal

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

The lie is that the manufacturers KNOW that a computer uses 1024 THey've ALWAYS used 1024. It's nothing new or something that changed after they started using 1000 in advertising, and yet they /chose/ to use 1000 because that made the drives look bigger in advertising print.

Same way that monitor manufacturers /chose/ to use O.D. tube diameter when advertising CRT "sizes" instead of the actual display area. Tube diameter is bigger so that looks better in print. The actual image area being some random and unknown smaller amount that was never disclosed. A lawsuit finally stopped that practice.

But anyway much like LCDs have made the whole tube diameter thing moot, SSDs which seem to now be actually advertising 1024k numbers may eventually make this little bit of a numbers travesty an amusing footnote in computer history...
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17 Dec 2009   #60
sunnybyfleet

Windows 7
 
 

But since they are not actually lieing, you can't call it a lie. Misleading perhaps, but hardly a travesty. Broadband connection speeds, now thats a lie, and a travesty. The odd gigabyte here and there doesn't seem in the same league.
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