Demise 1155??

I just read this and they come up with this ridiculous explanation that being "fixed" makes the chip more efficient and faster because of shorter leads and improved thermal dissipation (trough the board??) etc etc ad nauseum as if what we have now isn't fast enough and the heat issue reasonably well under control.
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I suppose in fairness there may be a place for this stuff in say a server where a board could be slipped out and replaced but for us an absolutely no brainer from Dimtel.

I am with TC if this does happen then I will be off to AMD and let Intel shoot themselves in both feet.

Again I wonder what the board manufacturers will be thinking - if it were me I would be getting a tad nervous re using Dimtel.

I am sure that the BGA design will be incorporated into a whole new product line. What I am not sure of is whether Intel intends to eliminate any future LGA product line. That seems to be the speculation of the writers, but I don't hear the words from Intel.

Keep in mind that the market is all about laptops, tablets, and phones now for these guys. The desktop PC market is pretty much an afterthought. "We have lots of exciting new stuff!!! - and, oh, yeah, we make some PC stuff too".

You made me look.

Intel Says Company Committed to Sockets | Maximum PC

Intel sort of denies rumors about future CPUs being non-upgradeable

TwoCables said:

Dimtel! lol

Thought you might like that I did some other looking round and came across this Intel Reveals the End is Near for its Desktop Motherboards it has some other rather depressing links and after spending what I consider a fair bit of my hard earned money with Dimtel over the years personally I am beginning to feel very disappointed to put it mildly I would use words that would probably get me banned but being thrown to the lions is not my idea of enjoying oneself.

It occurs to me that corporate greed and appeal to the mindless masses is the all important issue and the be all and end all for this once great company which in my mind is sinking into the pit of ultimate apathy when it comes to the likes of us who enjoy building, fixing,and generally using our computers as we know them.

So I am banking on your thoughts that AMD will take over - I don't know about you but truthfully I don't care that much if one processor is two nano seconds quicker than the next is it really that important? when really your life is measured in such a short time span anyway. Better that I can do what I do now rather than have to go along with some SA Dimtel designer and developers.

I suppose one bit of good news to come out of this will be for AMD in that some of us will swing to them maybe it is the break they need??

It could very easily be Intel is just trying to improve their motherboard sales. Most who build don't use Intel boards. I have a Intel board in my grandpa computer by choice. It works great but very limited options. I believe the all-in-one will be marketed to the PC builders like Dell, HP ect. It would improve their motherboard sales in huge numbers and the big builders will go for it with joy. We have already seen great strides in on board videos chips.
On board video chips and cpu's would make it great for big builders. Pop the motherboard in and all warranty for most things is covered by Intel as a unit. On the wrong side of the tracks we call that a (Slam bang thank you Mam)

ICit2lol said:

TwoCables said:

Dimtel! lol

Thought you might like that I did some other looking round and came across this Intel Reveals the End is Near for its Desktop Motherboards

Yeah, considering that the Intel boards were between crappy and average, that's a good move. Let ASUS/Gigabyte/Asrock/MSI/whatever do their thing.

Please note the last line Intel will continue to design and engineer chipsets.
The chipset is the heart of a mobo, and they still need one anyway unless they go the SoC way ala ARM processors.

Besides, having some moderate experience in de-soldering BGA stuff with a heatgun, I don't see why you cannot design an aftermarket socket to fit the BGA processor. You make contact on the blobs of solder instead, so what? Something like this that I think is what is used during in-house testing anyway.
Then you just shift the market of processors, instead of buying them from Intel or general sellers you buy them from a board manufacturer. Maybe providing proof that you have one of their boards to mount it on.

Well whatever they are inclined to do from blobs of solder - in my experience a real retrograde step because whatever it is soldered in or solder on solder the material is not up to scratch as far as I am concerned as I have and I expect a lot of others will have had to fix dry joints easily oxidised solder to solder surfaces etc.

Look I am frankly past caring what they do CPU wise and if they want to make that component a soldered in job then let them because it to my simple mind makes it no better than the chipset which is already permanently fixed. The same chipset that Bob had said will still be made by these people, but who is to say that sooner or later they don't turn round and demand the board manufacturers will have to have the CPU if they want the chipsets??
I have never considered a Dimtel board I just find that this concept being forced upon the brands we do like is taking away our right of choice as their consumers and not only that makes the whole darn thing a throw away item.

I suppose in a way we have made this rod for our own backs really by demanding better and faster devices and gobbling them up as fast as they can churn them out, and giving them what is to me a monopoly. They (Dimtel) having such a following they have now have got us by the bits that hurt and it is very depressing to know like factory chickens we are going to be turned into a "product" for them to use at leisure.

I feel sorry for the generations coming on as the pleasure of building and owning machines as we have now maybe a thing of the past.

ICit2lol said:

Maybe it is time to stop where I am.

I know I have. Mostly...

I can't see my pc becoming a slouch any time soon but who knows what the land will be like come complete upgrade time.