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04 Jul 2013   #1
Faladu

Windows 7 Ultimate Retail Box (64-bit installed) + Service Pack 1
 
 
What the....

Fresh install of 7 on new Samsung 840 Pro SSD, I reformatted my old SSD and made it F:

I installed maybe 5 utilities on it and I had rebooted several times for various things, no issues.

I did AMD Catalyst 13.4 Southbridge update via: 13-4_vista_win7_win8_32-64_sb.exe and I let it upgrade anything it was able to.
I rebooted after and up pops chkdsk needing to check F: for consistency, eventually I let it go, not much on it.
It mentioned some issues, was too fast to see, then:
It said invaild security ID using default for about 1200 files and ended.

Windows comes up and F: works (I had skipped that scan but F: was not usable if I did)
But 2 of the utilities I had just installed on the reformatted drive were GONE. (recovered in many useless subdirs of found.000 now available on the F: drive)

Why did this occur, and what steps do I need to take so it doesn't again?

I have installed 7 a number of times, and this has never happened before.

I had run no tweaking utilities whatsoever, did everything manually so far, I got nothing to point at but the SB install, because I had just rebooted after adding the video driver (Catalyst, using the latest FROM my video card's manufacturer's website) and chipset driver was next.

I would have made a better thread title but was and couldn't think of one.

TRIM is checked as enabled before this issue came up, also.


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04 Jul 2013   #2
Faladu

Windows 7 Ultimate Retail Box (64-bit installed) + Service Pack 1
 
 

Just got back and now on a reboot after copying some files over to another wiped hard drive, it's chkdsk integrity check on a reboot after some more driver updates, I skipped the check, drive is not usable.

What is going on?

Going through chkdsk /f on the E: that was asking for a check, but doing it with 7 up and running and yeah found a lot of orphans and looks like it is replacing invalid security ID with default security id for every single file, I know this won't end well.

Not finding anything useful elsewhere on this as this just goes on and on, I do have what I copied over backed up, so this time not really losing anything permanently, but this is completely unstable!

I have an external drive that has lots of data I use for backup and if I add it into the mix it worked once but got in Device Manger a !'d driver and I went and installed it, then rebooted, it then showed briefly in my file manager then vanished as a letter and wouldn't show back up and 7 asked to FORMAT it....
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04 Jul 2013   #3
Faladu

Windows 7 Ultimate Retail Box (64-bit installed) + Service Pack 1
 
 

I do not use a RAID but I fear this is IDE/Raid BIOS settings that caused the issue at install, going to re-wipe this SSD and try Linux Mint 14 to verify hardware is fine and see how fast that is on higher end hardware.

Any other theories or comments welcomed.

Just noting that I had HPET and IOMMU enabled also, [editing from within Linux Mint 14 live DVD which booted without incident.]
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05 Jul 2013   #4
Faladu

Windows 7 Ultimate Retail Box (64-bit installed) + Service Pack 1
 
 

So LM14 installed in 6 mins, only weirdness: if I add the external USB drive it wasn't able to mount it, but I quickly put it on my wife's PC and verified it's there and works fine, and a sigh of relief!

LM14 is really fast, shame on Winbloat! Boots in like 12 secs.

Wondering if downloading that Win 7 ultimate SP1 image (legit download site) was a bad idea and something on it, unexpected, fouled things up, won't be using on the next install, just in case.

So far my take away from this is never let CHKDSK check integrity after rebooting and having no reason for it running.
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05 Jul 2013   #5
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Hum Faladu so where are you installing from that hasn't got the SP1?


Yep I agree the Linux stuff poops all over sometimes eh? I prefer Ubuntu but only use that for fixing gear.
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05 Jul 2013   #6
bobafetthotmail

Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601
 
 

When was the last time you ran a checkdisk on either of your drives?
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05 Jul 2013   #7
Faladu

Windows 7 Ultimate Retail Box (64-bit installed) + Service Pack 1
 
 

I have retail box of 7 ultimate is how I have untainted version of 7 to install.

The drives that had the issue were empty except for files I had just copied to them.

I am back with 7 Ultimate installed again but in the midst of something I can't reboot again yet, but no chkdsk yet since this install.
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05 Jul 2013   #8
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Oops misread the post.

Mate if you want to do something physical with the drives there is a surface test too with Partition Wizard Best Free Partition Manager Freeware and free partition magic for Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows Vista and Windows XP 32 bit & 64 bit. MiniTool Free Partition Manager Software Home Edition. if you haven't got it already. Plus it is a handy tool I use all the time.


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05 Jul 2013   #9
Faladu

Windows 7 Ultimate Retail Box (64-bit installed) + Service Pack 1
 
 

Hardware wise these drives were all seen as OK, it's related to some driver and/or bios setting, just very weird from out of the blue, about to reboot and tempt it again.

Rebooted very quickly and no chkdsk, hadn't been rebooted in about 20 hrs, looks like 2nd redo was fine, I did not use the amd..._sb file this time.
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06 Jul 2013   #10
Faladu

Windows 7 Ultimate Retail Box (64-bit installed) + Service Pack 1
 
 

Got the external WD drive back working too with USB v3.0 spec, used Renesas driver for an unknown listed in Device Manager + WD SES Device Driver also, which I had added previously.

Was odd, had Renesas listed as a single item (installed it from it's own .exe) until I did that, and the WD external would ONLY work on a USB 2.0 port at that time, I have a USB 3.0 4 port hub, only has 2 USB v3.0's direct off the motherboard in back, hub is new, but worked fine in last build.

Without the Renesas driver actually added for the unknown, the drive wouldn't work even as a 2.0 in a 3.0 port, that was new one on me.

I have had lots of unknowns that functioned anyway like pen drives, so I was ignoring the !'d Unknown.
Clean for once Device Manager screen below:


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