Strange RAM issue


  1. Posts : 554
    Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1
       #1

    Strange RAM issue


    I have 4x2GB sticks of OCZ Gold DDR2-800 RAM, but for some reason, I'm not able to use all 4 sticks on my motherboard, despite the fact that the documentation clearly says that it supports 8 GB of RAM. I already ruled out bad RAM as I've used every combination of 2 of the 4 sticks of RAM with no issues, as well as in all 4 slots, but I can't have all 4 in at once. The computer will power on, but nothing will show up on the monitor. I even tried a couple of older 1 GB DDR2 sticks together with 2 of the OCZ sticks and that doesn't work either. Every combination of the 2 will allow me to boot up into Windows properly, but if I have all 4 sticks in at once, whether its 4x2GB or 2x2GB and 2x1GB, it doesn't. Does anyone have any idea as to why it's doing that? Not that it's THAT big a deal since 4 GB is enough RAM, but since I have the additional 4 GB, I would like to get some use out of it.
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  2. Posts : 8
    Windows 7
       #2

    Go at ur MB bios settings (chipshet setup) and enable the
    Memory remapping option
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  3. Posts : 8,375
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       #3

    If you are not going to be running anything memory hungry 4gb is quite adequate for most systems to start with whether or not you are running a 64bit edition. Keep the second pair as a spare memory kit in case one dimm goes bad on you.
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  4. Posts : 554
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    Thread Starter
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    minotavrs said:
    Go at ur MB bios settings (chipshet setup) and enable the
    Memory remapping option
    Thanks. I'll try that on reboot.

    Night Hawk said:
    If you are not going to be running anything memory hungry 4gb is quite adequate for most systems to start with whether or not you are running a 64bit edition. Keep the second pair as a spare memory kit in case one dimm goes bad on you.
    I know it's adequate. My system is fine with 4 GB, I'm just concerned as to why having all 4 RAM slots used doesn't allow the computer to boot.
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  5. Posts : 488
    Win 7 Pro x64 x 3, Win 7 Pro x86, Ubuntu 9.04
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    On my friends mobo it supported 2 slots at higher speed (1066), and 4 slots at the lower speeds (<= 800). You might check your motherboard specs, or just try dropping the speed to 800 Mhz or lower and see if it recognizes more than 2 sticks at a time. Not sure if it's the same issue since your ram is already at 800 Mhz.

    "However, similar to the way the original Phenom handled DDR2-1066, current Phenom II platforms limit the usage of DDR3-1333 to one DIMM per channel; otherwise, the DIMMs are underclocked to DDR3-1066.[6] AMD claims that this behavior is due to the BIOS, not the memory controller, and plans to address it with a BIOS update."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenom_II

    So, you might check if a bios update fixes it.

    In fact, if the mobo is the one in your system specs:
    "[ 1602 ]
    ----------------------
    01. Improve the system performance when use 1066MHz memory.
    02. Support new CPUs. Please refer to our website at: http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx
    "
    Currently they are on revision 2002 for that bios. http://support.asus.com/download/dow...model=M3A78-EM
    Last edited by fakeasdf; 20 Oct 2009 at 01:02. Reason: Found a source to update the random words coming out of my mouth.
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  6. Posts : 554
    Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1
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    fakeasdf said:
    On my friends mobo it supported 2 slots at higher speed (1066), and 4 slots at the lower speeds (<= 800). You might check your motherboard specs, or just try dropping the speed to 800 Mhz or lower and see if it recognizes more than 2 sticks at a time. Not sure if it's the same issue since your ram is already at 800 Mhz.

    "However, similar to the way the original Phenom handled DDR2-1066, current Phenom II platforms limit the usage of DDR3-1333 to one DIMM per channel; otherwise, the DIMMs are underclocked to DDR3-1066.[6] AMD claims that this behavior is due to the BIOS, not the memory controller, and plans to address it with a BIOS update."

    Phenom II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    So, you might check if a bios update fixes it.

    In fact, if the mobo is the one in your system specs:
    "[ 1602 ]
    ----------------------
    01. Improve the system performance when use 1066MHz memory.
    02. Support new CPUs. Please refer to our website at: ASUSTeK Computer Inc.-Support-
    "
    Currently they are on revision 2002 for that bios. ASUSTeK Computer Inc.-Support-
    Thanks for this, but my BIOS is already updated to the latest version. I fiddled with the memory settings in BIOS and it managed to get to the Starting Windows screen before it BSOD'd and went back to having a blank screen again. For some reason, the RAM is clocked at 667 MHz instead of 800 as well.

    EDIT: Also, I saved the XML and DMP files after the BSOD but I can't make heads or tails from what they say.
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  7. Posts : 1,557
    XP, Seven, 2008R2
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    KazeNoKoe23 said:
    EDIT: Also, I saved the XML and DMP files after the BSOD but I can't make heads or tails from what they say.
    If you attach the dump files, there are experts who can help you with the debugging.
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  8. Posts : 554
    Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1
    Thread Starter
       #8

    Okay, here they are.

    Crash files.zip
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  9. Posts : 554
    Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1
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       #9

    Nobody knows the issue?

    Mods, maybe this should be moved into Crashes and Debugging. My mistake.
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  10. Posts : 2,606
    Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1
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    KazeNoKoe23 said:
    I have 4x2GB sticks of OCZ Gold DDR2-800 RAM, but for some reason, I'm not able to use all 4 sticks on my motherboard, despite the fact that the documentation clearly says that it supports 8 GB of RAM. I already ruled out bad RAM as I've used every combination of 2 of the 4 sticks of RAM with no issues, as well as in all 4 slots, but I can't have all 4 in at once. The computer will power on, but nothing will show up on the monitor. I even tried a couple of older 1 GB DDR2 sticks together with 2 of the OCZ sticks and that doesn't work either. Every combination of the 2 will allow me to boot up into Windows properly, but if I have all 4 sticks in at once, whether its 4x2GB or 2x2GB and 2x1GB, it doesn't. Does anyone have any idea as to why it's doing that? Not that it's THAT big a deal since 4 GB is enough RAM, but since I have the additional 4 GB, I would like to get some use out of it.
    Asus may have a QVL (qualified vendors list) for your mainboard. (I'd try to get a link, but their site appears to be down at the moment.)

    Not all RAM is certified for use in all 4 slots.

    I have six 2GB DIMMs installed in my Asus board (P6T Deluxe), but I had to manually set the timings and voltages (backed off on the timings a notch) to get reliable operation. Letting the BIOS automatically configure the RAM didn't permit me to run it at its rated frequency (DDR3 1600).
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