Can I delete the recovery partition and then re-install it

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  1. Posts : 6,458
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       #11

    Hmmmm, do your drive labels include drive letters?

    OS (C:) (C:)
    HP RECOVERY (D:) (D:)

    That's probably the case, it just looks odd. It was the same way in your first Disk Mgmt screen shot too.

    Thanks for posting the new schema.

    Bill
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  2. Posts : 45
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       #12

    SlartyBart,
    Yes they do. The reason they are double [(C:) (C:) and (D:) (D:)] is because (I think) I have external drives that I had used to save my info to and when these drives were set up, they were assigned a second letter to differentiate which was which. An example is (C:) - (G:). That way I know that (C:)-(C:) is the internal drive and (C:)-(G:) is the external one.
    I have attached a snip of some external disks I had along on 11-9-12 with the internal disk, to give you a better picture.

    As you can gather, I'm still a neophyte in the learning stage...learning new things every day..:)
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  3.    #13

    Partiiton Wizard has a newer feature that allows you to move around unused partition space to any other partition no matter if it is adjacent. This would be ideal for redistributing your space from C to the data partition or even make more space should you like to add another Logical partition at the end of the drive. How to extend partition easily with Partition Wizard - video help.

    There remains the question if the HP Recovery partition will even boot now, so you might want to test it by queuing up HP System Recovery. Again it is only good for reinstalling the HP bloatware which is the worst load in the industry. If it doesn't boot then your choices are to delete it or you can add it to a Dual Boot menu (ideally with a 5-10 second timeout) using Boot Recovery Partition using EasyBCD. You may decide you don't need it if you've made your HP Recov DIsks - make another set
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  4. Posts : 6,458
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       #14

    Deaf Dave said:
    SlartyBart,
    Yes they do. The reason they are double [(C:) (C:) and (D:) (D:)] is because (I think) I have external drives that I had used to save my info to and when these drives were set up, they were assigned a second letter to differentiate which was which. An example is (C:) - (G:). That way I know that (C:)-(C:) is the internal drive and (C:)-(G:) is the external one.
    I have attached a snip of some external disks I had along on 11-9-12 with the internal disk, to give you a better picture.

    As you can gather, I'm still a neophyte in the learning stage...learning new things every day..:)
    No sweat Dave, we all learn something every day.

    I understand the concept and used something like it myself once. I put the drive letter first though because of the way Windows sorts in Disk management. It looked funny
    (C:) Win7 (C:)
    (D:) Profiles (D:)
    (E:) Local Store (E:)

    But the sort was always correct regardless of how I viewed the disks.

    It's not really important- what works for you is what's important.

    Side note: if you select advanced when posting, then scroll down and tick Disable smilies in text, you won't get the automatic smileys for drive letters.

    edit: I just took a closer look at your Disk Mgmt screen shot.
    Do you ever use 1 TB Drive Compaq (I:) (I:) to boot?
    If not, then you should remove the active flag.
    I'll look for a tutorial, but Greg might pop back in and post it before I find it (he knows where all the good stuff is)
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  5. Posts : 45
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       #15

    No, I never used 1 TB Drive Compaq (I:) (I:) to boot. In fact, I have never had to use anything other than the original hard drive and now it's replacement (the one I'm using now). I'm usually afraid to monkey around with things I don't understand. I do have repair and rescue disks but thank goodness, have never had the need to resort to their use. Remove the Active flag? How do I do that?

    That was the way disk manager set up the drive letters and that's why I continued using that format. Your way of putting the drive letter first looks like a good idea. So that I understand correctly; would the copy of OS (C:) (C:) - [OS (C:) (L:)] be set up as; (L:) OS (C:) ?

    Thanks for the trick for removing the smilies. I wondered how they mysteriously appeared.
    Last edited by Deaf Dave; 06 Jun 2014 at 17:48. Reason: remove smilies
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  6.    #16

    Yes, you don't want any but the System partition to be marked Active, so Mark Partition as Inactive - Windows 7 Forums
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  7. Posts : 6,458
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       #17

    I thought Greg would beat me posting the tutorial - he's really great at this stuff.

    Thanks Greg!

    Deaf Dave said:
    .....
    Your way of putting the drive letter first looks like a good idea. So that I understand correctly; would the copy of OS (C:) (C:) - [OS (C:) (L:)] be set up as; (L:) OS (C:) ?

    Thanks for the trick for removing the smilies. I wondered how they mysteriously appeared.
    Yes, I think you have my OCD naming convention figured out - lol.

    The only reason I marked the volume with a drive letter is because I had applications that depended on data being accessed on a certain drive letter (that was a long time ago). When I reinstalled or moved the external to another machine, the drive letters changed and the applications either didn't find the data or found a different data set.

    Interestingly, the naming convention I use now is more like the one you use - DriveSizeVol# Content
    2t01 Libs
    2t02 Media

    2t99 Storage - Ok this isn't really Volume# 99, but it puts it last in the 2t drive sort.

    You have many drives, so you'd need to differentiate the label in some manner similar to what you do now with Drive #.

    Here's another naming convention:
    1 TB Drive 1 (H:) (H:) becomes 1tDrv1 Contents
    1 TB Drive 3 (M:) (M:) becomes 1tDrv3 Contents
    .....
    1 TB Drive 1 COMPAQ (I:) (I:) becomes 1tDrv1 COMPAQ

    If you need to know the drive letter then stick it on the front of the label, but Windows will remember the drive and assign it the same letter every time it's connected (Unless you have a few drives that use that letter and both are connected).

    Anyway, the naming convention is not all that important, yours seems fine. It's a personal choice on how you name the drives and as long as it makes sense to you, there is no right or wrong.

    I've changed the way I label volumes many times, trying to get it to work / look the way I want it to. I always end up saying "If only Windows would present the drive letter first, I wouldn't have to try and figure out a workaround" - LOL

    Glad to pass along any tips I have - the smilies got me a few times too.

    Bill
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    Last edited by Slartybart; 06 Jun 2014 at 22:21. Reason: spelling & format
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  8. Posts : 45
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       #18

    SlartyBart,
    At one time I had 6 external drives hooked up for various tasks. What I started doing to keep from getting them confused was to name them using their S/N as in Z1E3EYZK. Seeing as how I only installed this replacement internal drive (Z1E3EYZK) a week ago, I still haven't got around to naming it. I'm thinking of naming it; SystemZ1E3EYZK.
    OS (C:)Z1E3EYZK(C:). and if I keep it, (D:) HP_RecoveryZ1E3EYZK (D:). Hopefully, everything will be recognized properly. After that, as time allows, reduce the OS to it's own partition. What do you think? DD
    Last edited by Deaf Dave; 06 Jun 2014 at 23:02. Reason: eliminate smilies
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  9. Posts : 6,458
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       #19

    If that works for you, it works for me Dave. A serial # is as good as any other identifier.

    Hold off on re-labeling HP_Recovery, there's something in the back of my mind that says "HP_Recovery can be any drive letter, but it must be labeled HP_Recovery". I'm not certain about that though - it is true for HP TOOLS in that the volume label matters. Don't change the HP_Recovery drive letter or the label just yet based on my sometimes slow memory.

    Other than that, it sounds like a plan. Windows doesn't care about the volume labels, HP software only cares about the two I already mentioned.

    Our conversation on volume labels might have side-tracked the thread a bit. So I'll try to refocus the discussion back to the original question.

    You still owe Greg an answer; re: HP Recovery in Post# 13
    Does the partition still boot into HP Recovery?

    Bill
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  10. Posts : 45
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       #20

    Greg & Bill,
    You still owe Greg an answer; re: HP Recovery in Post# 13
    Does the partition still boot into HP Recovery?
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    Oops, got carried away.

    Yes, F-11 Recovery gives all the options: Microsoft System Restore, Microsoft Startup Repair Tool, System Recovery, File Backup Programs and Contact HP Support.

    Will wait for a while before renaming/lettering the partitions. No rush! No smilies either...
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