Enable test mode to solve USB problems?

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  1. Posts : 6,458
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       #271

    CrabbyRightNow said:
    Thank you, ComputerGeek, for spending so much time on this difficult problem.

    Bill, I will pick this up in the morning when I have more energy! Spent a hard morning in the field painting a picture of an old bridge. Then had a little drink in the afternoon that kind of did me in.
    You're calling the shots - thanks for letting me know.

    I'm glad you said painting a picture of a bridge and not painting a bridge :)

    Get a good night's rest and ask any questions about what's next. I had a few tings to write down (brain dump) so I'm sure it's confusing.

    I'll check back tomorrow,

    Bill
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  2. Posts : 6,458
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       #272

    CrabbyRightNow said:
    There is no ghost hub as far as I can see and I did check in registry to make sure the code was installed.
    Huh, how about that....

    Keep in mind that DriveCleanup removes ghost entries - just though I'd mention the order thing. If you run DriveCleanup then look in DevMgr, you won't ever see a ghost. Ghosts come from devices that were once connected to the machine, but have been disconnected or replaced by other hardware.

    USBs are notorious for ghosts, people connect printers, mice, ext disk drives, etc... and then disconnect them. That leaves a 'breadcrumb for the next time the device is connected to the same port

    Ok try this tomorrow, Launch DevMgr,
    Click the View menu and
    Click Show Hidden Devices

    Then expand each category until you see a ghost entry. Here's a shot from my machine - your devices will be different. Look closely at the icons - the one next to the red boxed device is slightly faded compared to the one above or below it.
    Enable test mode to solve USB problems?-ghostdevs.png
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       #273

    "Then expand each category until you see a ghost entry. Here's a shot from my machine - your devices will be different. Look closely at the icons - the one next to the red boxed device is slightly faded compared to the one above or below it."

    I did this and don't see anything at all that is lighter than the others.
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  4. Posts : 6,458
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       #274

    Ok, please read post# 270 and ask for clarification or amplification on anything that isn't crystal clear. This is my last best effort for the USB 3.0 device.

    Please also tell me your mouse mfr & model - I'll look at the mfr site for details. I need to know in order to answer your quandary about it not working on USB 3.0 ports. It won't work on a USB 3.0 port if the mouse is a USB 2.0 device. Why did it once? It shouldn't have, unless it IS a USB 3.0 device.

    Thanks.
    Last edited by Slartybart; 20 Jan 2015 at 23:28.
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  5. Posts : 131
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       #275

    It is a Logitech mini mouse m/n M-UV55a P/N 830695-0000.

    I have a bathtub full of vertical blinds to wash before getting to post 270. :)
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  6. Posts : 6,458
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       #276

    That's ok - take your time ... no rush.

    I'll look at the mouse information.

    Thanks for the link to the mouse - I really appreciate it.

    +edit
    I have Logitech equip and have visited their site before. I don't like what they've done to the place.
    I found no useful information. All it said about the mouse was USB - no version (USB2 / USB3)
    I still say that the mouse is only USB 2.0 ready. Mice and KBs don't need the throughput of USB 3.0 and it's more expensive to make a mouse or KB that supports USB 3.0.

    I just wanted to make sure, there are newer Mice/KBs that are USB3. There is really no information available for you model
    You'll just have to trust me on this one
    A USB 3 device can be plugged into either a 2.0 or 3.0 port and it will work
    A USB 2 device can ONLY be plugged into a 2.0 port
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    -edit
    Last edited by Slartybart; 20 Jan 2015 at 23:18.
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  7. Posts : 131
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       #277

    I'm stuck on this part:
    "Install the USB chipset from ...
    the location changes for different drivers, only install one driver in each iteration of the #InstallDevice process
    #1: C:\SwSetup\sp56164
    #2: %USERPROFILE%\Downloads\Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver\setup.exe"

    Don't understand what you are telling me to do. Also, sp56164 is a folder under C:\ It is not under SwSetup. See screenshot.
    At this point, device manager looks the same as earlier today.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Enable test mode to solve USB problems?-location-sp56164-jan-20.png  
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  8. Posts : 6,458
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       #278

    Yeah, sorry about that. I thought my notation might through you for a loop.

    I don't know why the SPxxxxx folders are on C:\. The HP installer does give your the option to change the location, but every HP Service Paq I've ever installed wants to go into c:\swsetup

    It looks like all of the things you've downloaded during this project are also on C:\

    I'll rewrite the instructions one for each driver instead of trying to shorthand with a 'goto'

    While I'm doing that, could you look in each of the SPxxxxx folders and let me know what the readme (if no readme, maybe an HTML) says
    Don't worry about looking in the SWsetup-x folder. I count 6 SPxxxxx folders in your screen shot.
    Something like
    SP56164 - USB 3.0 driver

    is fine. I don't recall doing that many downloads or installs from HP.

    Thanks,

    Bill
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  9. Posts : 6,458
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       #279

    Disconnect all USB devices
    Restart your machine
    F8 to Advanced Boot menu
    Disable Driver Signature Enforcement
    exit Advanced boot - saving changes
    Continue boot to Windows

    Run the DriveCleanup utility (not cCleaner)
    Check DevMgr
    If the USB 3.0 is working, great, if it is under Other Devices (code 28) - that's OK too
    If however, it is partially installed (not working) but it IS under the Universal Serial Bus category - uninstall it / remove software

    Install the USB chipset from ...
    C:\sp56164\setup

    Check DevMgr
    Post a screen shot.
    Stop if the USB 3.0 devices are reported as working in DevMgr.
    +AddStep
    Enable test mode to solve USB problems?-driverswinstall.png
    If the Device Installation window was not displayed
    Right click on the USB 3.0 device
    Click Scan for hardware changes
    -AddStep
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  10. Posts : 6,458
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       #280

    Read 279, ask for clarification or amplification.

    Didn't I already do this?
    Yes, but I think there was a misunderstanding on DSE (I know I wasn't sure until I checked)
    I also added some steps as a catchall - DriveCleanup BEFORE install
    Removing a partial install
    and forcing a Driver Software Installation.

    I'm hoping one of these added steps will correct the issue and the driver will install
    The hail Mary will be the driver from Intel - I will post that after I see how 279 goes.

    Note: the actual Driver Software Installation window you might see will be different.

    Bill
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