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  1. whs
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       #11

    Delete everything from the target SSD - you need all unallocated space there. As long as there is a partition, even an empty one, it is considered full.
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       #12

    Yes well it is probably down to restore points but the problem is getting the machine to boot now I think I have bricked the boot side of things really.

    Am not overly concerned it is just that if I were to try and reinstall it I would only get a straight 8 if I want it the 8.1 was free at the time. My docs and photos are on other machines to a larger extent I can email them to myself - it is just the reinstall that is a pain - well the updates anyway.

    I suppose it is a fresh start and the thing will not be so cluttered with favourites etc
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  3. whs
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       #13

    And why don't you clone the system ??
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       #14

    whs said:
    And why don't you clone the system ??
    Well Wolfgang I would love to clone it but it will not boot in the machine the only way I think I can do it is use another machine and hook both drives up with USB / SATA adaptors open Macrium in the work machine and clone the original drive to the new SSD but even so if the original is not going to let me boot then the new drive will not boot??.

    The target SSD is clean so it is no problem:)
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  5. whs
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       #15

    Something is wrong here. Cloning from a 120GB SSD to a 240GB SSD should be no problem at all. Are you sure that 240GB SSD is all unallocated space - check in Disk Management. Lack of unallocated space is the only way I can explain the 'no space available' message that you are getting.
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       #16

    No Wolfgang the problem is the 120GB will not boot into the OS that is on it (8.1) so that I can pull up Macrium and do the clone. I tried it when it said my disk was almost full and then the machine proceeded to tell me there was not enough space on the disk to do the cloning.

    So I tried getting rid of a few programs only to get the same message doing that - it seems absolutely ridiculous that I should need disk space to uninstall programs. In any case I did try and have now ended up with a drive that will not boot at all not even into safe mode
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       #17

    Did you try booting with a Linux CD to see if you can do any cleanup from there ?
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       #18

    Not yet mate I am at work this pm and I will try tomorrow morning after I have had a look at a mates desktop that has died on him.
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       #19

    No problem, and good luck !

    Regarding
    If I want to get it back I have to reinstall 7 then use the 8 upgrade disk and then see if it will upgrade to 8.1
    I THINK it's possible to install 8.1 if you have an 8 activation key ...
    If you want to read about this, see this post/thread:
    New Windows 8.1 ISOs with November Rollup (Update 3) - Page 2

    Here is the MS link to download the 8.1 build:
    Create installation media for Windows 8.1 - Windows Help

    I did download the 8.1 ISO using an 8 upgrade key, but i haven't tried a clean install ...
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  10. whs
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       #20

    Hmm, I guess if the 120GB does not boot at all, then you have to fix that first. Did you try a refresh ?
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