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Windows 7: Upgrading motherboard on Windows 7

14 Dec 2009   #21
gregrocker

 

I pull HD"s and install Win7 regularly when OD/flash won't boot, and upon return to old machine with all new hardware (to the OS) except HD, it changes out all of the drivers in an impressive show but never has a "breakdown."

In fact performance has never been compromised in the slightest, which was the biggest surprise as the first time I ran chkdsk, HD scan, sfc, etc. expecting disaster.

....Not a hiccup.

Maybe you thought the cascading drivers show was a breakdown?


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15 Dec 2009   #22
radianation

Windows 7
 
 

So you're saying that you swap hardware and no problems? I'm on 64bit Windows 7 if that matters. I know a few years ago 64bit OS was a little more "picky" with drivers, but that seems to be a non-issue lately.

Tomorrow I will try to swap mobo, cpu, and ram and see if the new system will boot. If not, I'll be doing another clean install. I've installed and configured 8 new computers recently with Windows 7 (small business owner) and while the install is simple, not all of the upgrades from Vista -> Windows 7 went smooth. Because of all of the extra work the last thing I want to do is reinstall another machine, hence the desire to just swap some hardware and be done with it.
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15 Dec 2009   #23
bigmck

Windows 7 Home Premium 32-Bit - Build 7600 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Saint Cad View Post
Hey, speaking of that, I know that 1GB is not really 1,000,000,000 but rather 1024x1024x1024. I've seen the 32-bit OS limit on RAM as 3.X and 4GB. The point may be moot for me, but if I plunk in 2x2048MB in RAM, would Win7 recognize every bit of it?
No, it will be the same thing. 3.X is going to be your limit. I have 2 X 2048 and that is just the way it is. When you go to 64-bit you can get more Ram, but the programs are limited in number for 64-bit at this time. It kind of defeats the purpose.
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15 Dec 2009   #24
RogerR

7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by radianation View Post
So you're saying that you swap hardware and no problems? I'm on 64bit Windows 7 if that matters. I know a few years ago 64bit OS was a little more "picky" with drivers, but that seems to be a non-issue lately.
I just had to do a mobo swap (from EVGA to Elite Group) on a 7x64 machine a couple of weeks ago. Plugged everything in and booted up into a repair install, One restart and it was all back to normal.
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16 Dec 2009   #25
radianation

Windows 7
 
 

SUCCESS!!

Tonight I upgraded from an Nvidia Chipset Asus M3N72-D with Phenom x4 to AMD/ATI chipset MSI 790FX-GD70. It booted up directly into Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit and detected all of the changed settings. At this point I selected to uninstall all Nvidia drivers but my video card drivers. After everything was done I rebooted and it's working like a champ.

I made sure my SATA port was the same for my HD on both mobo (boot drive in port 1). Could be superstitious, but it worked.

The only two things I can think of...

#1 - It's ok to go from Nvidia to AMD, but not the other way around?
#2 - Windows 7 Ultimate works better than Windows 7 Pro for this???

Good luck if you try. I'm 1 for 2 and couldn't be more pleased at the moment.
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16 Dec 2009   #26
gregrocker

 

How about activation? Did you change key at Computer>Properties link to reinstall key so it doesn't flag activation on hardware change?

The other method is repair install to acclimate the new hardware and reset activation, since it always requires key being reapplied anyway. May require robo call to MS which "Deactivates" key on old hardware and activates new one.
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17 Dec 2009   #27
radianation

Windows 7
 
 

I did not have to reactivate windows after swapping motherboards.
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17 Dec 2009   #28
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

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No, it will be the same thing. 3.X is going to be your limit. I have 2 X 2048 and that is just the way it is. When you go to 64-bit you can get more Ram, but the programs are limited in number for 64-bit at this time. It kind of defeats the purpose.
This is not entirely true, as I understand it.
And I encourage anyone to do more in-depth (not forums, actual articles) research.
Yes, Windows will report only 3G of ram,,, but,, Windows (regardless of 32 or 64 bit),, should reserve the 1st Gig for certain things. Now, htat could be 100M or 900M. So, yes, while there may be a bit of "wasted" memory, not all of it is. It is not, just not used.

64Bit just handles it differently than 32bit
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05 Jan 2010   #29
Decipher

Win7 64-bit, WinXP 32-bit
 
 

If you really want to know why and how Windows 32-bit versions are limited to approx 3 GB ram, then read this article Geoff Chappell, Software Analyst - Viewer

It's brilliant work imo - long story short though, the limit is not an architectural one, but a covert licensing policy by MS, ostensibly to make you upgrade to 64-bit and leave some more of your cash in the MS vault.
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05 Jan 2010   #30
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

I did not read all of that,,, but,, it pretty much doesn't make much since. If MS wanted to force more money out of people to purchase 64bit by limiting memory usage in 32bit..... Then why do they provide both 32bit and 64bit with every retail copy of windows? If you purchase OEM, and for whatever reason the above article is true,,,, then you should have purchased 64bit anyway, and if you wish to upgrade then you will need to do so. With that said,,,, Yes, I can see how this could be (if true) bad business practice, by not disclosing it as a license issue and had they just stated as such from the get go this wouldn't be an issue. But, I digress to my earlier statement of "you get both 32bit and 64bit with retail purchase". If you did not go that route and went with 32bit, that is your fault. Quite honestly, this should be moot as Vista/7 should have been 64bit only anyway.
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