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Windows 7: Trying to read an old Windows 3.1 Hard Drive

20 Jan 2017   #1
scoostraw

Windows 7 32bit
 
 
Trying to read an old Windows 3.1 Hard Drive

I pulled the hard drive out of my old Windows 3.1 computer with the idea of retrieving some old data off of it.

It is a Western Digital Caviar 2420 425mb drive. I'm using an adapter to plug into my usb port (Toshiba NB505 Netbook running Windows 7).

The drive shows up in Device Manager as: WDC AC24 20H USB Device
Under Properties it says that the device is working properly.
When I first plugged it in, Windows did a driver install and then a subsequent message that the device is available to use.

This all sounds good, but the drive appears in Disk Manager as "Unknown" and "Not Initialized".

What do I do (??)




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20 Jan 2017   #2
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Hello scoostraw mate if you want to get data off that drive use this
BOOTABLE UBUNTU
Make a bootable Ubuntu disk Download Ubuntu Desktop | Download | Ubuntu
Set the BIOS to boot from the optical when the machine boots it will show you a screen with TRY or INSTALL > select TRY not INSTALL
When it is finished - it takes very little time you will get a screen like in the pic .
Open the drive you want > User and dig down until you get to the data / settings you may be able to copy / paste the material you want to an external source or other installed drive doing this.
I am not sure if it will but I have recovered tons of data etc using this method both on "dead" or just plain drives that you cannot get data from using Windows.
Or there is this Emergency Kit - save your files from a dead OS I prefer Ubuntu a tad easier to set up but this does the same thing

You can use a stick if you want but I prefer a disk the choice is yours of course.


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21 Jan 2017   #3
scoostraw

Windows 7 32bit
 
 

Hello ICIT2LOL thanks for the reply.

My netbook does not have an optical drive, so if I use my USB external drive - do I just select USB in the BIOS as the "drive" to boot from?
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21 Jan 2017   #4
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

- Download the Ubuntu iso file.
- Use Rufus - Create bootable USB drives the easy way to create a USB boot able flash disk.
- Boot from the Ubuntu USB boot able flash disk.
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21 Jan 2017   #5
scoostraw

Windows 7 32bit
 
 

Ahh ok got it. I will try this later today when I am home.

As a related question - I am able to read a Windows 3.1 floppy disk just fine using a USB floppy drive. What is the reason that the hard drive cannot be read the same way via USB?
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21 Jan 2017   #6
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Ok mate as Megahertz has said to do a stick is fine. An alternative of course is to get an external optical drive but that is a by the by.

The hard drive if you were going to read it via USB would need a USB to SATA adaptor and another machine to hook it up to. Your floppy drive I am assuming is an external device.

This way you boot into a Linux based OS it is entirely independent of Windows so the Ubuntu or the other Linux Mint OS just sees your hard drive more or less the way that any computer would see a plugged in external drive as in Windows, and in a way how you see the floppy drive using Windows - if that makes sense.

Just do remember not to INSTALL the Ubuntu OS always the TRY = a handy tool to keep up your sleeve. Of course if you were interested in having a go with Ubuntu you clould always use a spare drive and install it. It is a bit fiddly for me so I have gone with another Linux based OS that is more like Windows.
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21 Jan 2017   #7
scoostraw

Windows 7 32bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICIT2LOL View Post
The hard drive if you were going to read it via USB would need a USB to SATA adaptor and another machine to hook it up to. Your floppy drive I am assuming is an external device.
Yes that's what I'm using - a SATA to USB adapter with power supply.

This one: Vantec – Vantec SATA/IDE to USB 2.0 Adapter - CB-ISATAU2 - 2.5"/3.5"/5.25" SATA/IDE to USB 2.0 Adapter

I hope to try this tonight. Thanks again for the help with this.
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21 Jan 2017   #8
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Ok mate yep that model is exactly the same as one that I have and having tried some cheaper Chinese sourced brands would advise anyone to go with this particular brand
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21 Jan 2017   #9
scoostraw

Windows 7 32bit
 
 

Ok an unexpected fly in the ointment..

For some reason my Toshiba flash-screen is not appearing when I power up. It goes straight to Windows. I have seen this Toshiba screen many many times (where you hold the Fx key to enter setup mode).

Any thoughts on why I'm not seeing it now? And how to get it back?
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21 Jan 2017   #10
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Ok mate now is it absolutely necessary for the Toshiba screen to show? As long as it is booting into Windows I wouldn't be worrying too much.

Now of I am not very much mistaken the splash screen is usually turned off in the BIOS if you so want. I take it you have not done anything like that in the BIOS?

Plus is this the first time it has done this if so just try a reboot.

Just a by the by that model I see comes with a mile of bloatware - not that that is surprising because I have had a few Toshibas myself and all of them I have done a clean install which of course gets rid of all that clutter.

If you ever need drivers for that machine this is it http://support.toshiba.com/support/m...861099&osId=29 I see there are quite a lot that are recent additions too and you can also see the amount of bloatware there is in that link.
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