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Windows 7: Problem with RAM

06 Mar 2017   #51
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
Check for bios updates :/


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06 Mar 2017   #52
zungul

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 
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BIOS is already updated.
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07 Mar 2017   #53
johnhoh

Win7 pro x64
 
 

When you tried only two dimms, were they running in dual channel or single channel mode? The motherboard selects this automatically depending on which slots you use. I'm wondering if perhaps your motherboard is able to run them fine in single channel mode but is unable to run dual channel, which requires a higher level of compatibility. Have you tried three sticks?
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09 Mar 2017   #54
zungul

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 
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Hi,

In the manual of my motherboard it said:

Do not create a three-DIMM configuration in dual-channel mode. The
third DIMM is ignored in the dual-channel operation.
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09 Mar 2017   #55
johnhoh

Win7 pro x64
 
 

yeah the idea was to force the motherboard to run in single-channel mode, because most memory incompatibility problems imo stem from dual channel. When you are in single-channel mode a memory request means the bits stream along without interruption from one single dimm to the cpu, doing so one dimm at a time. But in dual channel mode those bits are streaming from two dimms simultaneously and are quickly "joined" once they get to the memory controller, which makes dual channel mode way more complex than single channel mode and way more dependent on perfect timing, which is why it can result in incompatibility problems with certain dimms

Back in the day when everything was single channel you could buy the cheapest memory and it always worked. But as soon as dual channel came out, memory compatibility became a problem and you have to be picky about exactly what memory you get for your motherboard. In my earlier post I was hoping that your motherboard would drop into single channel mode if you installed a third dimm, but from what you posted it looks like the third dimm is just ignored. But my principle is the same - the only way you are going to get your machine to address 4.00GB with your CURRENT dimms is to get the memory to run in single channel mode.

At some point you have to ask yourself if all this is worth it, because a machine with 2.75GB is pretty unlikely to perform any differently than a machine with 4.00GB.
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09 Mar 2017   #56
zungul

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 
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I understand everything what you said but there is some difference between using 2 something GB of ram or 4 something GB of ram. Now when my computer is using 2...GB I have the most 600Mg memory free. Before when whole ram was used I had 2.6GB free memory it means everything was working always faster and smoother.

P.S.
Another thing I don't understand this thing which I see in the System Total 4.00 GB (2.62 GB usable)
What it means usable?
It doesn't have any sens !!!
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09 Mar 2017   #57
johnhoh

Win7 pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zungul View Post
Another thing I don't understand this thing which I see in the System Total 4.00 GB (2.62 GB usable)
What it means usable?
It means your motherboard knows there is 4GB installed in the slots however it also knows it cannot run it all properly in dual channel mode because your dimms are not up to snuff. Like if you buy a dozen apples and 4 of them are bruised, you would have 12 total apples in the kitchen but only 8 usable apples.
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09 Mar 2017   #58
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
Put the 2 sticks back in when it said 9mb's hardware reserved
Also did you use slot 1&3 or 2&4 ? you never said.

Then use the crucial upgrade adviser and post a link plus take a screen shot of what they say the machine is capable of using
Crucial.com - Crucial System Scanner
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09 Mar 2017   #59
zungul

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 
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This first time when was 9Mb it was 2and 4, but later I tried 1 & 3 and was the same sytuation but a little more than 9Mb about 28Mb. I think still good.
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09 Mar 2017   #60
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
Repeat 2&4 and use the crucial scanner post to the products they suggest.

How did you come to get the ram you're using now ? = who suggested it ?
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