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Windows 7: A new Battery Backup system

17 Oct 2017   #1
TechnoMage2016

Windows 7 Ultimate, SP1, x86
 
 
A new Battery Backup system

I have asked where to put this topic, but never did get a reply so here goes....

For many years now, I've always used UPS's (battery backup systems) to protect not only my main PC, but also my Internet Modem, routers, and even my TV and Cable box. The only problem with most reasonably priced UPS units is that they come with a wimpy little Gel-Cell battery that will only give you a few minutes of Run-Time.

I have a fix for this problem, but so far I've only got it to work with the "APC" brand of UPS.

To increase the Run-Time of a UPS, from just a few minutes to one, two or even three hours, depending on the load, I just remove the little Gel-Cell battery and extend the POS & NEG wires out to a "EverStart" tractor battery, from Walmart. (less than $30)


I also added a 30A inline fuse to my hookup.


Now my little $39 UPS will power my Desktop PC system for over two hours and possibly longer. That's plenty of time for me to finish what I'm doing and perform an orderly Power-Down, in case of a total Line Power failure, like we had (for five days) during Hurricane Irma. (even if I were doing a full HD backup or CLONE)

This "EverStart" battery is gutsy enough to start my car if I ever need it to do that.

Questions?

TechnoMage


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17 Oct 2017   #2
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
How is Frankenstein doing :)
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17 Oct 2017   #3
TechnoMage2016

Windows 7 Ultimate, SP1, x86
 
 

"Seven Guru"....that's your Question?
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17 Oct 2017   #4
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

How long has this set up of yours been running?
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17 Oct 2017   #5
TechnoMage2016

Windows 7 Ultimate, SP1, x86
 
 

My dear Lady,

This one?

Well, the one I just wrote about has been running now for a little over 24 hours.
Just long enough for it to fully charge its new battery. It stays plugged in to the wall socket, 24x7, and only kicks into battery power when the power line goes down during the not too infrequent power outage.

But I have a 600Watt model that I've had running for over ten years. It uses two car batteries for
its backup power. Otherwise it's plugged into the wall socked like the rest.

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17 Oct 2017   #6
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Thanks for the info. I had concerns the battery charging circuits in the UPS wouldn't have been able to handle the added load of charging and maintaining the external battery but the other one you've been running for ten years negates that worry. How did you connect the cables from the batteries to the UPS (both the new one and the old one)?
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17 Oct 2017   #7
TechnoMage2016

Windows 7 Ultimate, SP1, x86
 
 

Hmmm. How to explain it......?

The UPS batteries have spade connectors on them. The wiring in a UPS just plugs onto the battery very easily (more or less). So I prepared two wires, one red for positive and one black for negative, with connectors that match the wiring from the UPS. And on the battery end, I add connectors that can be attached to the battery terminals themselves.

Being an electronics guy (Guru) I've been wiring up things for over 50 years. I have quite a collection of connectors of all types and sizes. I can connect almost anything to anything.
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17 Oct 2017   #8
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TechnoMage2016 View Post
Hmmm. How to explain it......?

The UPS batteries have spade connectors on them. The wiring in a UPS just plugs onto the battery very easily (more or less). So I prepared two wires, one red for positive and one black for negative, with connectors that match the wiring from the UPS. And on the battery end, I add connectors that can be attached to the battery terminals themselves.

Being an electronics guy (Guru) I've been wiring up things for over 50 years. I have quite a collection of connectors of all types and sizes. I can connect almost anything to anything.
Ok, I get that part. What isn't clear is how do you get the cables out of the UPS without doing a warranty voiding modification? Do you leave the original battery connected?
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17 Oct 2017   #9
TechnoMage2016

Windows 7 Ultimate, SP1, x86
 
 

I punched two little 1/4" holes, right where the two parts of the case come together and ran the wires out through those holes. The wires are long enough to stick out about 2".

Warranty? You gotta be kidding me. I've been using APC brand of UPS(s) since 1994 (I think it was) and I've never done a warranty return. Whenever one dies, I throw it away and get a new one. Warranty returns are not worth my time and effort. It can take two weeks or more to get a replacement under any warranty, and I wouldn't want to be without backup power that long. It takes me less than an hour to go to Walmart and pick up a new UPS. Eh?
Two added benefits to doing that.....1. I get a new UPS with the latest Electronic Technology and I can even upgrade to a higher wattage unit if I want. 2. I get a new Gel-Cell battery that I can use somewhere else, like for emergency lighting.

Do you have, or have you ever had a UPS?

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17 Oct 2017   #10
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Thanks again!

Being the cheap old bi...broad I am, I don't like voiding warranties if I can help it.

I have owned three, two of which are still in service. The first one was a 1500W one for my desktop machine. I lasted almost five years. Since it was much too heavy (75 lb.) for me to lift without risking hurting myself so I replaced it with a 900w unit. I run my computer, two powered HDMI splitters, and all three monitors off it. It generally will run for 20 minutes after a power outage although I have it set to shut down (hibernate) one minute after an outage.

The third one is a 340w Cyberpower (not as well designed as my other two Cyberpowers) I use to keep my phone systems powered up during a power outage and to provide surge protection for my modem, router, two dual TV tuners, and the power injector for my amplified TV antenna. I've had it about a year now.
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