Windows 7 Forums
Welcome to Windows 7 Forums. Our forum is dedicated to helping you find support and solutions for any problems regarding your Windows 7 PC be it Dell, HP, Acer, Asus or a custom build. We also provide an extensive Windows 7 tutorial section that covers a wide range of tips and tricks.


Windows 7: spinning HD > SSD clone super slow, /w errors

19 Oct 2017   #1
zdoe

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 
spinning HD > SSD clone super slow, /w errors

for many years already, i clone my system drive every few months to another HD and keep it as a backup. if/when the system gets corrupted, i just swap drives and copy the latest data to the clone.

for cloning i use USB-booting paragon Hard Disk Manager, and the HD raw copy option.

so i did just reach out for my clone and booted. all is good.

but when i tried to make a new clone, spinning HD to SSD, the copy takes 10 hours instead the usual 3. and when i tested the new clone, on first boot it first runs chkdsk and finds a ton of errors (none on the source). it boots, but windows is corrupt on it - so obviously the cloning didn't succeed.

what could be the problem? has my SSD gone south? or - should i erase/empty it before cloning onto it?

i'm on a win7 laptop, the spinning drive is Hitachi 1Tb, the SSD a samsung evo 850.


My System SpecsSystem Spec
.
19 Oct 2017   #2
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

Try to use Macrium Software | Macrium Reflect Free
If your SSD is smaller than 1T, you must resize the C partition to fit.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
19 Oct 2017   #3
mrjimphelps

Linux Mint 18.2 xfce 64-bit (VMWare host) / Windows 8.1 Pro 32-bit (VMWare guest)
 
 

How old is your hard drive? Maybe it is going bad.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
.

19 Oct 2017   #4
zdoe

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mrjimphelps View Post
How old is your hard drive? Maybe it is going bad.
a year and a 1/2. but my computer is always on, so it does have quite a bit of mileage.

SSD TRIM : why cant the drive initiate this itself? - [Solved] - Storage
TicksOnTech: TRIM For the masses

these articles make me think that i should erase first, then trim. but forcetrim utility hiccups on a 1Tb partition.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
20 Oct 2017   #5
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

As I know, trim is only for SSD's.
- TRIM
Type this cmd
fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify

It will give you one of two results, either a 0 or a 1. A zero indicates that TRIM is enabled correctly, a one means that it is not. If you have a TRIM-compatible SSD, but find that Windows 7 hasn't enabled the command, you can easily do so by running this command:

fsutil behavior set DisableDeleteNotify 0
My System SpecsSystem Spec
20 Oct 2017   #6
mrjimphelps

Linux Mint 18.2 xfce 64-bit (VMWare host) / Windows 8.1 Pro 32-bit (VMWare guest)
 
 

It is possible that your hard drive is bad; but it isn't very old, so that's not likely.

My computer is always on, and my drive is holding up just fine. I have always operated that way, and it hasn't appeared to put any additional wear on my hard drives.

Like Megahertz said above, use Macrium Reflect Free to do the backup. And try doing an image backup rather than a clone backup. I recently used Macrium Reflect Free to do an image backup of a 750 GB hard drive, and I then restored the image to a 120 GB SSD. It worked without any problems. I then set up TRIM on the SSD, and I was good to go. The SSD became my C: drive (my primary Windows drive), and it's been working fine for several months now.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
20 Oct 2017   #7
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

Boot from Win 7 installation disk, go to repair and launch a CMD window.
Type
chkdsk c: /f

Pay attention on the results, specially for bad clusters or bad blocks.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
20 Oct 2017   #8
zdoe

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Megahertz07 View Post
As I know, trim is only for SSD's.
- TRIM
Type this cmd
fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify

It will give you one of two results, either a 0 or a 1. A zero indicates that TRIM is enabled correctly...
fsutil behavior set DisableDeleteNotify 0
yes, of course trim is only SSD. how the system knows what kind of drive, i'm not sure.

Trim is enabled, but it doesn't really apply in my situation, as it does its thing on deleted sectors on system idle time as determined by the OS. during a clone, each and every sector gets written to, and there is no idle time.

delete all contents, then forcetrim would work, if only the utility worked on a big partition.

another thought - what if i delete the partition, not its contents? what does the SSD do then, internally? i assume it still needs the deleted sectors "trimmed."

but yes, on the first clone onto the SSD there was no problem as its sectors are, off the shelf, "trimmed."
My System SpecsSystem Spec
20 Oct 2017   #9
mrjimphelps

Linux Mint 18.2 xfce 64-bit (VMWare host) / Windows 8.1 Pro 32-bit (VMWare guest)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zdoe View Post
what if i delete the partition, not its contents?
If you delete the partition, the contents are deleted with it. And once you delete it, it's gone forever.

If you want to delete a partition without deleting the contents, the only way to do that is to back it up first, then delete the partition, then recreate the partition, then restore the backup to the new partition.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
20 Oct 2017   #10
zdoe

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

well, my wording was funky.

but yes i WANT the drive to be in its virgin state. zero data on it.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Reply

 spinning HD > SSD clone super slow, /w errors




Thread Tools




Similar help and support threads
Thread Forum
CPU Spiking and super slow
I am going to build a new PC anyways, but I want to find out why my CPU is spiking, everytime I open Chrome and search it freezes, or when I open Firefox it freezes. This happens everytime I open something that is CPU intensive.
Performance & Maintenance
CPU is running super slow now
I recently cleaned my computer of dust using compressed air now the cpu is running very very slow.
Performance & Maintenance
VPN super Slow
Hi, I have a Windows Vista Home Premium machine acting as a VPN server. I have a laptop at my friends house also running Windows Vista Home Premium. On the Vista client, under the networking tab, I unchecked Use default gateway on remote network for both ipv6 and ipv4. The VPN works super fine and...
Network & Sharing
IE8 super slow
Hi. My OS is Windows 7 Home Premium. My IE version is 8.0.7600.16385. It's been working well until last night. Now suddenly, when I'm trying to go into large websites, everything takes halfway to forever to load. I even restored to any earlier point. Still the same problem. (By the way, I had...
Browsers & Mail
super SLOW
Hi everyone, Ive been having a bit of a problem with my pc, it's been running slow. When i open the internet it takes like 20sec and when i open any other sites it takes long as well. Basically the computer is slow. Ive done virus scans and seems to be fine to me. i forgot to mention that...
Performance & Maintenance


Our Sites

Site Links

About Us

Find Us

Windows 7 Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized, sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation. "Windows 7" and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.

Designer Media Ltd

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:32.
Twitter Facebook Google+