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Windows 7: Work-around for the 16GB limit on window home premium?

30 Nov 2017   #1
larryccf

windows 7 ultimate 64bit
 
 
Work-around for the 16GB limit on window home premium?

has anyone come up with one? I just installed another 2 sticks 8GB each, bringing my system to 32GB and
finally figured out why i only had 16GB enabled

tks in advance


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30 Nov 2017   #2
fireberd

Windows 10 64 bit
 
 

What do you need all that memory for? I have 16GB and use my system for my recording studio but have never topped around 6GB in use.
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30 Nov 2017   #3
mrjimphelps

Linux Mint 18.2 xfce 64-bit (VMWare host) / Windows 8.1 Pro 32-bit (VMWare guest)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by larryccf View Post
has anyone come up with one? I just installed another 2 sticks 8GB each, bringing my system to 32GB and
finally figured out why i only had 16GB enabled

tks in advance
Why did you have only 16 GB enabled?

By the way, there is one thing you could use the extra memory for: a RAM drive. A RAM drive is by far the fastest drive there is. The only problem is that whenever you reboot, the RAM drive is wiped clean. But with some things, that doesn't matter.

Here is something I just posted about RAM drives:
Please Explain about GB/s and RPM on HDDs ???

If you are doing heavy resource-intensive stuff, you could load it into the RAM drive and then do the task, and it would be lightning fast. For example, if you are regenerating huge AutoCAD drawings, that process would happen a lot faster on a RAM drive than even on an SSD.

If you set your Windows TEMP folder to be on the RAM drive, you would speed up Windows. Same thing for Internet Explorer. (I'm sure that there are a lot of things you could move to the RAM drive, in order to speed them up.)
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30 Nov 2017   #4
larryccf

windows 7 ultimate 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by fireberd View Post
What do you need all that memory for? I have 16GB and use my system for my recording studio but have never topped around 6GB in use.
SHORT IS, BECAUSE I WANT IT. The real question is why windows would bother to limit any edition of windows 7 to 16GB of ram - what exactly was their goal. Knowing windows, i know monetary gain was in the calculation

long answer, while i had win 7 ultimate installed, and all 32 GB enabled, Rendering the same video file with 16 GB enabled in home premium, i noted that it was using 3-3.2GB of ram. In Ultimate, with 32GB enabled, i noted that it was using 6-6.8GB of ram. And i measured a reduced rendering time of about 30+%
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30 Nov 2017   #5
larryccf

windows 7 ultimate 64bit
 
 

thanks but i remembered about ram drives, but don't care to go that route



Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mrjimphelps View Post
Why did you have only 16 GB enabled?

By the way, there is one thing you could use the extra memory for: a RAM drive. A RAM drive is by far the fastest drive there is. The only problem is that whenever you reboot, the RAM drive is wiped clean. But with some things, that doesn't matter.

Here is something I just posted about RAM drives:
Please Explain about GB/s and RPM on HDDs ???

If you are doing heavy resource-intensive stuff, you could load it into the RAM drive and then do the task, and it would be lightning fast. For example, if you are regenerating huge AutoCAD drawings, that process would happen a lot faster on a RAM drive than even on an SSD.

If you set your Windows TEMP folder to be on the RAM drive, you would speed up Windows. Same thing for Internet Explorer. (I'm sure that there are a lot of things you could move to the RAM drive, in order to speed them up.)
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30 Nov 2017   #6
LMiller7

Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
 
 

The 16 GB RAM limit in Windows 7 Home Premium is a licensing restriction, enforced by the kernel. The only way to evade this limit would be a hacked kernel which would be a violation of the EULA. There are number of safeguards in place that would make this difficult, the details of which are undocumented. It could result in activation problems.

If I knew of such a hacked kernel I would not post it.

The home editions of Windows have a number of limitations not present in the higher editions. The RAM limit is one such limit. You get what you pay for. Seems fair.
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30 Nov 2017   #7
samuria

win 8 32 bit
 
 

Does the mb support that much memory does the BIOS see it ok??
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30 Nov 2017   #8
larryccf

windows 7 ultimate 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by samuria View Post
Does the mb support that much memory does the BIOS see it ok??
yea - motherboard is an ASUS Z97M-Plus - and i'm running a i7-4790 cpu
again, when i had win 7 ultimate, as i stated in the other thread, it enabled 32GB and did improve my video rendering times
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30 Nov 2017   #9
torchwood

W7 home premium 32bit/W7HP 64bit/w10 tp insider ring
 
 

for a Gamer, Pro (max's out at 192GB same as Ultimate) is the best option
Ultimate uses more non related gaming options/resources.

WHAT YOU WANT is >> IRRELEVANT to MS << what you bought is what you get.
Same for any other piece of kit, you have to follow THIER rules not yours

Roy
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30 Nov 2017   #10
larryccf

windows 7 ultimate 64bit
 
 

but that still doesn't answer WHY MS would want to - except to limit the software artificially. I can understand Home Premium not coming with windows media center, and other optional services - but even that windows media center, MS factored that they'd given something away for free that they could charge for, so with Win 8, iirc, WMC was a $100 option

their business model is pure unabashed, absolutely shameless greed - i've been self employed since i was 26, so for 41 years, so i am a capitalist But I'd never think to try anything like they do, with my customers

since the earlier post, i went back and have tried to re-install my win 7 ultimate upgrade a half dozen times, and each time i've hit a brick wall with an "incompatible system" message - now i'm wishing i'd left it installed on the two SSDs and played with combining them onto one drive.

i know this has to sound like a rant, but MS just seems to get under my skin - i'm still remembering Windows 95


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by LMiller7 View Post
The 16 GB RAM limit in Windows 7 Home Premium is a licensing restriction, enforced by the kernel. The only way to evade this limit would be a hacked kernel which would be a violation of the EULA. There are number of safeguards in place that would make this difficult, the details of which are undocumented. It could result in activation problems.

If I knew of such a hacked kernel I would not post it.

The home editions of Windows have a number of limitations not present in the higher editions. The RAM limit is one such limit. You get what you pay for. Seems fair.
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