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Windows 7: External USB HDD changed from NTFS to RAW

04 Dec 2017   #11
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Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Build 7601 32bit
 
 

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Drive C, D, & K are on the computer I am using... F is the drive in question, thought the size is way off

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There is no "List" option Partition list does not look right at all.




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04 Dec 2017   #12
jumanji

Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit
 
 

OK. It detects only the first 32GB partition. No use.

Is your drive deteriorating??????????

Go back to PW, do a Quick Scan again and post a screenshot of partitions found Window. ( You can tick all the partitions and take the screenshot but do not APPLY) I have noted that you have the Pro version. So yes, no restrictions.

Double click on all the partitions ticked and check whether the explorer shows all your files and report.

If you want you may go to sleep now and do it in the morning. ( I presume the local time indicated is correct)
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04 Dec 2017   #13
WinDozeUser

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Build 7601 32bit
 
 

PW Quick Scan
External USB HDD changed from NTFS to RAW-006-pw.jpg

Files look OK

Funny thing...I scanned the drive with Partition Guru and it showed only the "Software" partition and files were accessible for viewing! All the partitions and file seen in the PW Scan did not show up!

External USB HDD changed from NTFS to RAW-007-pg.jpg
Partition Size of the "Software" Partition was far greater than 32GB, 742.3GB as seen in the Unallocated PW Scan.

External USB HDD changed from NTFS to RAW-008-pg.jpg


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04 Dec 2017   #14
jumanji

Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit
 
 

"I scanned the drive with Partition Guru and it showed only the "Software" partition and files were accessible for viewing! All the partitions and file seen in the PW Scan did not show up!"

OK, how important are those files in Software partition for you? I am not conversant with Partition Guru and so cannot advise you anything on it. (Actually Partition Guru shows you only the 32GB partition and not the 472.3GB Software partition.)

SIW2 is the Partition Guru. May be he can help you on it if he is looking into this thread.

On my part I would like to restore all the other partitions except that unallocated partition but not before I capture and save sector 0 before I order you to APPLY it with PW. (FYI Sector 0 contains the MBR code and Partition table/s. PW will write the new partition table/s into it.)

To save sector 0, you have to use bootice. Download x64 or x86 as per your system Windows bit version and save sector 0 . Help: Post #7 here Lost partitions! Solved - Windows 7 Help Forums Also save sector 63

Post the screenshots of Sector 0 and sector 63 for the record and my perusal.

( Make sure those are backed up. By default it is saved in the bootice folder. File size: 512 bytes)

Once you have saved sector 0 and sector 63, you can run PW Quickscan and APPLY to write the partition tables in sector 0. You may need to assign drive letters. After applying, right click on the partitions without drive letters and assign a drive letter/s.

Once the process is complete we may turn our attention to the Unallocated Software partition and try to recover it if possible.
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05 Dec 2017   #15
jumanji

Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit
 
 

I also need some clarifications:

Were the 32GB partition and the adjacent 472.3 GB partiiion ( now showing unallocated) existing before when the drive was working properly? Did those have distinct and seperate drive letters?

In all how many partitions were there when it was working normally?

Was there any extended partition and logical partitions in it?

You say it is a bare internal drive Seagate Barracuda. How come it is a USB external drive? Was this drive working properly in that external enclosure before?

Is it still in that external enclosure?

Answer these questions before you run Quick Scan and apply.

If it was being used as an internal drive before, it will be worthwhile to put it back as as an internal drive in its original location and check whether everything is alright.
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05 Dec 2017   #16
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Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Build 7601 32bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jumanji View Post
I also need some clarifications:

[I]"Were the 32GB partition and the adjacent 472.3 GB partition ( now showing unallocated) existing before when the drive was working properly? Did those have distinct and separate drive letters?"
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I honestly don't remember a 32GB partition It could be valid, but am not sure

[I]"In all how many partitions were there when it was working normally?"[I]
Partitions were(to the best of my knowledge):
1 SOFTWARE (Likely 742GB)
2 MUSIC 797GB
3 EBOOKS 74GB
4 MY-DATA 31GB

"Was there any extended partition and logical partitions in it?"
It was never a Primary drive, so I am thinking they are all Logical Drives. Not sure if any were extended

You say it is a bare internal drive Seagate Barracuda. How come it is a USB external drive? Was this drive working properly in that external enclosure before?
This drive is sold as a bare Internal HDD. I bought an external case and used it exclusively as a USB attached external drive. It was working perfect in the external enclosure.


"Is it still in that external enclosure?"
Yes


Answer these questions before you run Quick Scan and apply.

If it was being used as an internal drive before, it will be worthwhile to put it back as as an internal drive in its original location and check whether everything is alright.
The trouble is that the cable has gotten bumped many times and this is what I believe preceded the failure, possible while in the write/read state.

Our time schedules are quite off. Do you have "best hours" when you are able to help. I am able to stay up to as late as 1AM, my time, but generally am not available before 10AM my time.
Thanks
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05 Dec 2017   #17
jumanji

Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit
 
 

OK, you have answered all the questions. I would think that the 32GB partition is an anamoly. That plus the adjoining 472.3GB must have been one single partition before.

Now go ahead using bootice post the screenshots of sector 0 and sector 63 and save those.

Once done run Quickscan, put a tick mark on all partitions in the list view the disk map below the list and if it is the same as before, go ahead and Apply. Should there be any error or cautionary message capture it and post. (I would believe that there will be none). Then assign drive letters where necessary.

After that post a screenshot of Windows Disk Management and also PW.

After analysing sector 0 and sector 63 screenshots we shall decide what further should be done. I may take sometime to mull over it and crystallise my ideas.

Now let me hear some music and refresh myself.
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05 Dec 2017   #18
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Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Build 7601 32bit
 
 

Images:
Overview
External USB HDD changed from NTFS to RAW-009-bi_view.jpg

MBR Sector 0
External USB HDD changed from NTFS to RAW-010-bi_s0.jpg

Sector 63
External USB HDD changed from NTFS to RAW-011-bi_s63.jpg

Not sure why these images are not viewable on post..?

Before I physically change anything...The backup of sector 0 & sector 63 will enable me to restore to pre-altered state??


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05 Dec 2017   #19
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Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Build 7601 32bit
 
 

Also:
External USB HDD changed from NTFS to RAW-011-backup-sizes.jpg

"Make sure those are backed up. By default it is saved in the bootice folder. File size: 512 bytes"
This does not appear to be the case...

Sweet Dreams, jumanji
I am going to use Partition Guru to copy all file in the Unallocated space(742.3GB) to a 4TB drive via the PG interface. It seems to be working great, so maybe we can ignore the partition when making changes with PW. Am waiting for an educated guess on weather the backups of the MBR 0 & Sector 63 via BootIce is reasonable before proceeding. I'll update this reply when the "Unallocated (SOFTWARE)" data is complete.

really appreciate your help.

NOTE: All files from the "unallocated" partition (the folder called SOFTWARE) are not copied to a 4TB dive successfully. Total real-estate was 468GB. I no longer have to worry about these files.


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05 Dec 2017   #20
jumanji

Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit
 
 

Glad you are able to copy all files in the Unallocated space(742.3GB) with PG EDIT: Or was it not?

Now go ahead with partition recovery with Partition Wizard. That should write the three 16 byte partition tables in sector 0 ( which is missing now)

After that post the screenshot of Windows Disk Management. That should tell us whether we can make the whole 32GB + 472.3GB into unallocated so that we can format it as one single partition without taking recourse to bootice..

.........shall continue after a short break.
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