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Windows 7: Add SATA ports to Asus M4A78T?

08 Feb 2018   #1
WBFAir

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit (Full)
 
 
Add SATA ports to Asus M4A78T?

Hello all

I am guessing this is a easy thing to answer most here but I have been out of the computer game for a bit but I have a older Asus M4A78T motherboard that nativity has 5 internal SATA 2 connections.

Currently I have my OS drive running on two drives in RAID 0 on the first set of two of them, then a DVD-RW Optical and BD-RW Optical on the next two and another single SATA Hard drive on the 5th.

Years ago as I wanted a few more SATA connection for hard drives I bought a Highpoint 2640X1 RAID Controller HighPoint Global website that has 4 inputs and I am used just two of those just to make the connections (in other words not in RAID) for two more SATA drives I am just using for storage. Currently its plugged to the MB via one of its PCIe x1 slots.

At this point just to answer, no I have no idea why I bought this all that time ago for just this but at any rate, it works and it's what I have been using for some time.

So along with still leaving the OS RAID 0 Drives connected to their current Asus MB connections, now I would like to add a second RAID setup of two SSD drives and would rather put that on two of those native to the Asus SATA connections as things can get weird with that Highpoint adapter.

But to try to do this I have to find some way to connect those two optical drives and so just for giggles (and here comes the ignorant part) I tried to see if they would work on the Highpoint controller in its last two free ports but they would not show up in any way in the OS and even in the Highpoint config app.

So perhaps this is a really long winded way to ask, but what do I use in place of this HighPoint RAID controller to be able to connect the two SATA storage drives that are on it now, and the two Optical drives I need to get working into something I can plug into that PCIe x1 slot?

Thanks for any help.


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09 Feb 2018   #2
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

The biggest advantage of a SSD over a HDD is speed and shockproof (important on laptops). The down side is high price.
In your case, the SSD should be used as a boot able disk for OS and programs (to take advantage of the speed). Makes no sense to use them for Data.

Almost all SSDs are SATA III (600MB/s). What brand and model are your SSDs?

As your MB and the 2640X1 are SATA II (300MB/s) you wont be using all the speed a SSD SATA III can give you.

If your SSDs are SATA II:
On the MB:
- Install the SSDs in SATA 0&1 and make a RAID 0 array
- Install the HDDs in SATA 2&3 (already on a RAID 0 array)
- Install the DVD-RW on SATA 4

On the 2640X1 (as this may not be a boot able device)
- Install the HDD in SATA 0
- Install the BD-RW on SATA 1

If your SSDs are SATA III my suggestion is to replace the 2640X1 with a boot able SATA III device.
StarTech.com 4 Port PCI Express 2.0 SATA III 6Gbps RAID Controller Card with HyperDuo SSD Tiering - PCIe SATA 3 Controller Adapter - Newegg.com
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09 Feb 2018   #3
WBFAir

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit (Full)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Megahertz07 View Post
The biggest advantage of a SSD over a HDD is speed and shockproof (important on laptops). The down side is high price.
In your case, the SSD should be used as a boot able disk for OS and programs (to take advantage of the speed). Makes no sense to use them for Data.
Yes am just looking for this for a OS drive and am only looking for 500g for that so per the cost isn't to bad these days, at least per what performance gains they can give.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Megahertz07 View Post
Almost all SSDs are SATA III (600MB/s). What brand and model are your SSDs?
Probably one of the Samsungs EVO's but I haven't figured out just which one yet.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Megahertz07 View Post
As your MB and the 2640X1 are SATA II (300MB/s) you wont be using all the speed a SSD SATA III can give you.
Yeah I know, this is all kind of a last ditch effort to squeeze a year or two more out of this rig as hopefully this can get me by till I afford what I really would like.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Megahertz07 View Post
If your SSDs are SATA II:
On the MB:
- Install the SSDs in SATA 0&1 and make a RAID 0 array
- Install the HDDs in SATA 2&3 (already on a RAID 0 array)
- Install the DVD-RW on SATA 4

On the 2640X1 (as this may not be a boot able device)
- Install the HDD in SATA 0
- Install the BD-RW on SATA 1
I like some of these recommendation but and I know the post about was long, if you might recall I wrote that I tried connecting both of the optical drives to the 2640X1 and neither would show up on it.

Perhaps there is something I have missed, but I have used all the ways I know of including its native conf program and the opticals just do not show up.

Essentially this is my primary problem.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Megahertz07 View Post
If your SSDs are SATA III my suggestion is to replace the 2640X1 with a boot able SATA III device.
StarTech.com 4 Port PCI Express 2.0 SATA III 6Gbps RAID Controller Card with HyperDuo SSD Tiering - PCIe SATA 3 Controller Adapter - Newegg.com
Am guessing something like this would be better as that is kind of one of the issues with the 2640X1 unit as its not really bootable and needs to have its drivers loaded before it really works correctly.

So are you fairly confident the unit you linked will take the two optical drives?

Also, does it matter that the PCIe slot I would plug it into is a x1 and not a x2?
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09 Feb 2018   #4
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Megahertz07 View Post
...Makes no sense to use them for Data...
That's true for most people. However, there many situations where SSDs would be the better option for even data. The first that comes to mind is in laptops, etc. As you pointed out SSDs are pretty much shockproof, a huge advantage for laptops, etc. They also draw less power than HDDs which can result in increased battery time between recharges.

If one routinely moves huge amounts of data to and from a storage drive, the increased speed of SSDs becomes a significant advantage. Examples would be scratch files when editing large raw photo files, rendering graphic and video files, etc.

The dramatically reduced size and weight of SSDs compared to HDDs of the same capacity can also make them worthwhile in certain situations. In my case, lugging six backup HDDs to and from my safe deposit box at my credit union was becoming a chore that was risking physical injury to me (old age sucks!). That was going to become worse when I added another data drive to my computer and I was going to have to lug eight drives back and forth. The Pelican transport case I was using had a maximum capacity of ten HDDs. If I added much more in the way of data storage, I would have run out of room in my safe deposit box. A larger box would have been expensive (assuming a larger one was available).

For me, the solution was to go all SSDs. Was it expensive? Heck yeah; enormously so! Was it worth it? My old arms and back sure as heck thinks so! Bonuses include room for more backup drives in my safe deposit box and less room needed to store backup drives. When using HDDs for backups, I had to put each HDD into an antistatic bag before carting it to my safe deposit box. After swapping out the drives at the credit union and lugging them home, I had to remove the drives from the antistatic bags before putting them away in an antistatic "egg crate" in a very large drawer (which was also running out of room, btw). After the switch to SSDs, I'm able to store the backup drives in a much smaller "egg crate" in a smaller drawer at home. I have a second egg crate for storing the drives in my safe deposit box (the egg crate can hold far more drives than I'll ever need and still will take up less room in the safe deposit box). When swapping out the drives at home with the ones in the safe deposit, I just swap out the egg crates (I have a smaller Pelican case the egg crates fit into).
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09 Feb 2018   #5
mrjimphelps

Linux Mint 18.2 xfce 64-bit (VMWare host) / Windows 8.1 Pro 32-bit (VMWare guest)
 
 

If you add some SATA ports, you'll need power for the SATA devices. Make sure you have sufficient internal SATA power connections to service all SATA devices. If you don't have enough, you can get some Y-adapters to add more ports.

If you happen to get SATA ports on the outside (i.e. available for external devices), then you'll need to get a SATA power extension cord to provide power to the external device.

At one time I ran SATA power and data extension cables out of the back of my computer. When I wanted to do a backup, I would power down, connect an internal hard drive (that wasn't installed in the machine), and power up. When the backup was done, I powered down, unhooked the drive, and stored the drive away.

This worked well for doing backups.
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10 Feb 2018   #6
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mrjimphelps View Post
...At one time I ran SATA power and data extension cables out of the back of my computer. When I wanted to do a backup, I would power down, connect an internal hard drive (that wasn't installed in the machine), and power up. When the backup was done, I powered down, unhooked the drive, and stored the drive away.

This worked well for doing backups.
External docks are inexpensive and "oneheckuvalot" easier to use.
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11 Feb 2018   #7
mrjimphelps

Linux Mint 18.2 xfce 64-bit (VMWare host) / Windows 8.1 Pro 32-bit (VMWare guest)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
External docks are inexpensive and "oneheckuvalot" easier to use.
Well, it was a lot of fun running the data and power cables out of the back of the computer, then connecting the drive as needed!
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11 Feb 2018   #8
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mrjimphelps View Post
Well, it was a lot of fun running the data and power cables out of the back of the computer, then connecting the drive as needed!
Granted, there is the "geek factor".
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