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Windows 7: a.c.ryan esata

23 Nov 2009   #1
baccini

windows 7 64bit sp1
 
 
a.c.ryan esata

Hello I have a external caddy made by a.c.ryan it can connect using esata or usb.I used esata on xp now I have to use usb unless someone can help out,when I switch to esata the drive does not show up in my computer, windows installed the driver and said it was ready to use


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23 Nov 2009   #2
Qdos

 

Sounds like your AHCI drivers are not present, or you haven't enabled AHCI mode in your system BIOS...
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23 Nov 2009   #3
whest

XP, Vista, W7 64bit Home Premium
 
 

Have you looked in disk management to see if you have a drive letter assigned to the drive - right click the drive area and select assign drive letter.
Control Panel - Administrative Tools - Computer Management - Disk Management

If you want hotswapping enabled you will need to enable AHCI in the bios, but you have to read and do the following before doing so or W7 will not boot :

Error message when you start a Windows 7 or Windows Vista-based computer after you change the SATA mode of the boot drive: "STOP 0x0000007B INACCESSABLE_BOOT_DEVICE"

* note Im not certain this works with the via chipset.
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24 Nov 2009   #4
baccini

windows 7 64bit sp1
 
 

hello I checked disk managment and the drive shows up when using usb when I change over to esata I get not initialized if I right click "you must initialize disk before logical disk manager can access it"the choice is mbr master boot record thanks for your help if i initialize will I lose disk data?
just checked the bios under j micron raid controller the options are
disable
ide (selected)
raid
ahci
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24 Nov 2009   #5
whest

XP, Vista, W7 64bit Home Premium
 
 

I have read on the forums conflicting opinions on this - some say it will keep the data, and some say the opposite - you say it works on the usb port maybe you could copy the data if it werent a lot before trying - but its obviously been initialised - try this firstly - Open Disk Management. Click Action and then click Rescan Disks. Right-click any disk marked Foreign, click Import Foreign Disks, and then follow the instructions on your screen.

Another question - did you safely remove the hardware - anyway try shutting down the PC altogether - turn the power off at the power point - turn power on for esata - reconnect the esata drive - if its been removed, then turn the power on, and restart the PC - fingers crossed it will detect the drive correctly. Just thought you should also turn off the power to the external enclosure with the hard drive if its connected to a different power source - use this order - turn the esata drive power on first, and connect to pc - if unplugged, then start the pc.

Post back I'm interested in this myself.
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24 Nov 2009   #6
Dave76

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by baccini View Post
hello I checked disk managment and the drive shows up when using usb when I change over to esata I get not initialized if I right click "you must initialize disk before logical disk manager can access it"the choice is mbr master boot record thanks for your help if i initialize will I lose disk data?
just checked the bios under j micron raid controller the options are
disable
ide (selected)
raid
ahci
Welcome to Seven Forums.

I also have an A.C.Ryan (eSATA) external HD, using BIOS set to RAID on my desktop (only choice) and AHCI on my laptop. Both are Plug and Play.

Do you have a SATA setting in BIOS as well as J Micron?
If yes, tell us what the SATA setting is, should be the same choices as the J Micron.
The J Micron setting should be for your eSATA connection.

When your JMicron (eSATA port) BIOS settings are in IDE you won't have the Plug and Play option. If you plug the external HD eSATA cable into the computer and turn on the external power before you start the computer, then you will see it as you did before, you should shut down your computer to un-plug it.

You will get Plug and Play if you switch the BIOS to AHCI or RAID.
This will not work if you just go to BIOS and change the setting, you will get a Blue Screen error (BSOD).

I don't have the JMicron controller, so I can't tell you for sure but, you will likely have to change the registry setting for the JMicron driver before this will work.

Possibly, post this in the Driver forum and see if anyone with a JMicron controller can verify this method.

Or, you can try this and see if it works.

Try the MS link posted by whest, this should work, though I have not tried this method.
If you are planning on using RAID, then switch to RAID. Since you have been in IDE mode I'll assume you don't use RAID.
Then I would suggest using AHCI mode, this will give you full Plug and Play and you won't need Matrix Storage Manager.

Make a backup of your registry before you make any changes.
Here is a link to MS: Back up the registry in Win7
Follow the instructions in the MS link by whest.
Re-start your computer, go to BIOS change the JMicron setting to AHCI, save and continue booting.
If you get a Blue screen just re-start the computer, go to BIOS and set the JMicron back to IDE, you computer will start normally.

Again, I don't have a JMicron controller so I haven't tried this.
I have loaded the SATA RAID driver, re-started my computer, switched to RAID in BIOS, save and continue startup. This allowed me to switch to RAID and use Plug and Play for my external HD.

Let us know how it goes.
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24 Nov 2009   #7
whest

XP, Vista, W7 64bit Home Premium
 
 

Yes Dave's bought up a good point about the Jmicron and I have made a error when I went to your motherboards site I assumed after seeing your board supported the intel cpu it was an intel chipset board but its a VIA Chipset and only has the Jmicron controller, but as you have it as IDE it depends whether you want hotswapping enabled, and as Daves unsure as to whether the fix will work so am I, but the driver is a standard driver and would probably be for all controllers - it reads in my device manager as a Standard AHCI 1.0 Serial ATA Controller.

You can do as Dave suggests or to be on the safe side leave it as IDE.

Also, to Dave you can disregard the part about needing the intel matrix driver as its only for intel Raid/AHCI and of course he has it set as IDE - sorry as it was my error as I wasnt thorough enough, and didnt realise it only had 1 controller and that being the j micron, and also its a VIA Chipset.

So as not to mislead any one else with suggestions I will remove that from my first post and thanks Dave as I was a little off track there.
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24 Nov 2009   #8
baccini

windows 7 64bit sp1
 
 

hello again changed the registry as instructed and the bios setting to ahci pc restarted but still no esata works with usb.the bios setting are
sata controller enabled
sata controller mode ide selected
raid
ex sata/pci-e* 1 option
ex-sata selected
pci-e1
a big thank you for all the help
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24 Nov 2009   #9
whest

XP, Vista, W7 64bit Home Premium
 
 

No it should work with the IDE setting changing I only only suggested if you wanted hotswapping enabled. Did you read my second post about turning the PC off - i guess you probably already tried this - i will do a search of this forum it might show something post back in a sec

There are a couple of posts worth reading :

https://www.sevenforums.com/gtsearch....&sa=Search#376

http://search.support.microsoft.com/...comm=1&res=100

https://www.sevenforums.com/gtsearch....sa=Search#1150
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24 Nov 2009   #10
whest

XP, Vista, W7 64bit Home Premium
 
 

Some of the following info maybe useful :

Move Disks to Another Computer[This topic is pre-release documentation and is subject to change in future releases. Blank topics are included as placeholders.]

This section describes the steps to take and considerations associated with moving disks to another computer. You might want to print this procedure or write down the steps before attempting to move disks from one computer to another.
Backup Operator or Administrator is the minimum membership required to perform these steps.
Verify volume health
Use Disk Management to make sure the status of the volumes on the disks is Healthy. If the status is not Healthy, you should repair the volumes before you move the disks.
To verify the volume status, check the Status column in the Volume List view or under the volume size and file system information in the Graphical view.
Uninstall the disks
Uninstall the disks you want to move using Device Manager.
To uninstall disks
Open Device Manager in Computer Management.
In the device list, double-click Disk drives.
Right-click the disks you want to uninstall, and then click Uninstall.
In the Confirm Device Removal dialog box, click OK.
Remove dynamic disks
If the disks you want to move are dynamic disks, in Disk Management, right-click the disks that you want to move, and then click Remove Disk.
After having removed dynamic disks or if you are moving basic disks, you can now physically disconnect them. If the disks are external, you can now unplug them from the computer. If they are internal, turn off the computer, and then physically remove the disks.
Install disks in the new computer
If the disks are external, plug them into the computer. If the disks are internal, make sure the computer is turned off and then physically install the disks in that computer.
Start the computer that contains the disks you moved and follow the instructions on the Found New Hardware dialog box.
Detect new disks
On the new computer, open Disk Management. Click Action and then click Rescan Disks. Right-click any disk marked Foreign, click Import Foreign Disks, and then follow the instructions on your screen.
Additional considerations
When moved to another computer, basic volumes receive the next available drive letter on that computer. Dynamic volumes retain the drive letter they had on the previous computer. If a dynamic volume did not have a drive letter on the previous computer, it does not receive a drive letter when moved to another computer. If the drive letter is already used on the computer where they are moved, the volume receives the next available drive letter. If an administrator has used the mountvol /n or the diskpart automount commands to prevent new volumes from being added to the system, volumes moved from another computer are prevented from being mounted and from receiving a drive letter. To use the volume, you must manually mount the volume and assign it a drive letter using Disk Management or the DiskPart and mountvol commands.

If you are moving spanned, striped, mirrored, or RAID-5 volumes, it is highly recommended that you move all disks containing the volume together. Otherwise, the volumes on the disks cannot be brought online and will not be accessible except to delete them.

You can move multiple disks from different computers to a computer by installing the disks, opening Disk Management, right-clicking any of the new disks, and then clicking Import Foreign Disks. When importing multiple disks from different computers, always import all of the disks from one computer at a time. For example, if you want to move disks from two computers, import disks from the first computer and then import disks from the second computer.

Disk Management describes the condition of the volumes on the disks before they are imported. Review this information carefully. If there are any problems, this will tell you what will happen to each volume on these disks once the disks have been imported.

If you move a GUID partition table disk containing the Windows operating system to an x86-based or x64-based computer, you can access the data, but you cannot boot from that operating system.
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