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Windows 7: Excessive Read Write overloading HDD

15 Apr 2018   #11
TheDeerDude

Windows 7 HP x64
 
 

Thank you for getting back to us with your results,

It's certainly very interesting (Marie asked a very good question) how the PC seems to behave normally in safe mode. Could it be some malicious or dodgy software, just glitching and using your HDD when in "normal mode"?

Another thing you could try, is have a look in the Resource Monitor in the "Disk" tab to see which process is reading/writing to the hard drive so intensly. To open resource monitor, hold down the windows key on your keyboard and press "R" (win+r) in the "Run" dialogue box that appears, type in "resmon" and press enter.

As for the hard drive, yes it seems that it has a single bad sector, and another single bad sector waiting to be replaced. Some drives are fine with a few bad sectors that have been reallocated (marked as bad, and spare sectors put in place of them) others are only going to get worse. We can't know what will happen. I have recently had an external 750GB drive with over 200 bad sectors, and the only two files I wasn't able to recover were 2 photos, so I wouldn't worry about how much damage a single sector did (yes, single, because the other one has been reallocated and is no longer a problem)

However, after formatting and running chkdsk on the hard drive I mentioned, the bad sectors grew from 200 to 4000.

So, have you made a backup image with macrium, of your hard drive? which mode did you use? Can someone else confirm that OP backed up his personal files? I'm not familiar with Macrium. The fact that it took so long, would hint at the hard drive dying, and so does the poor performance, and it not wanting to load your "Downloads"


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15 Apr 2018   #12
Snick

Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch, Kali, VMWare Workstation Player, OpenVPN
 
 

In regards to your safe mode question, I don't know anyone who operates their computer exclusively in safe mode.
Differences between Normal and Safe Mode in Windows
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15 Apr 2018   #13
Marie SWE

1xWin7 Home X64, 2xWin7 Pro x64, 1xWin 2008 R2 server. 1xWinXP Pro, 1xWin 2k and Linux Mint Mate
 
 

No The only time you use Safe Mode is to troubleshoot or to make restores, backups and so on.
When in Safe mode try this in the command prompt (as an administrator)
sfc/ scannow
chkdsk c:

Here's a small list of things you can check. Also check if you have other scheduled activities that are enabled when logging in and when the computer is not in use after a few minutes.
This I wrote stands for me. I have done this because I hate when the hard disk runs constantly in the background.

Check if the scheduler has following.
AV. Is there a trigger that activates file scanning or update when the computer is idle. If yes, change the activation time to allow the computer to wait for 30-40 minutes of inactivity.
Applications experiencis. Disable all if you do not participate in customer experience programs
Autochk. Disable it It's also to customer experience program
Customer Experience Improvement Program. Disable all
Defrag. Disable and run it yourself once a week. Or change the time for the computer to wait for at least 20-40 minutes of inactivity. (if you have a SSD disk it should be Disabled)
Disk Diagnostic. Change it to 20 minutes inactivity
Maintenance. Change it to 20 minutes of inactivity
Power Efficiency Diagnostic. Disable or change to 10 minutes inactivity
Registry. change to 7-10 minutes inactivity (don't disable this one it backups your registry)
System Restore. change to 15 minutes
Windows Defender. Disable and scan ones a day, or every other day. Or change to 10-15 Minutes inactivity(if you ave an other AV disable this one)

Services under Administrator Tools
Microsoft.NET. I have changed it to manual
Superfetch. I have it disabled
Windows search. I have it disabled, but it stops indexing. so try changing it to disabled just to see how it affects your hard drive activity. You can re-enable it later

I may have missed something since we all have different things installed on our computers. Then look into your scheduled activities if you have other things enabled.
Under services, can you also look at what more things that are auto-start or delayed automatic start on.

Never disable anything that you do not know what it is for. Ask if you're unsure.:)
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15 Apr 2018   #14
Snick

Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch, Kali, VMWare Workstation Player, OpenVPN
 
 

Nice list Marie SWE! Well done!
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15 Apr 2018   #15
Marie SWE

1xWin7 Home X64, 2xWin7 Pro x64, 1xWin 2008 R2 server. 1xWinXP Pro, 1xWin 2k and Linux Mint Mate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Snick View Post
Nice list Marie SWE! Well done!
Thanks :)
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15 Apr 2018   #16
XP VM User

Windows7 Professional 64bit
 
 
Reasons why I cant just run in Safe Mode all the time!

First, let me thank lehnerus2000 for his VERY CLEAR! information on using Macrium!

I can't wait to try that out and see if I can find my missing stuff (yes it did occur after all the iPad stuff as I probabaly killed the HDD trying to save an old iPad data to upload it to new one without spending for a data restoration person to do it "professionally". (sad bad boy face emojii).

I wish I could Rep you lehnerus2000 for that but the little window says I must spread around some reps before I do that (I played a game here hoping that it would let me do just that, but fortunately the designers of this site had the foresight to remove reps from all but serious work here helping others. Wish I had the knowledge to help others here in return for all the help I've been getting. (but they would have to read long replies I guess so maybe better that I don't do that).

Now for a few questions about my current situation:

1. My biggest problem with using "Safe Mode" 100% or so of the time is that I have no Audio Service. The Speaker has a "x" on it and clicking repair only leads me to the standard Microsoft Page: See Screenshot:

Excessive Read Write overloading HDD-no-audio-service-suggestions-ps35459.jpg

2. No printers! I had seven. Now I got none! I can assume only way is to spend each session I'm in Safe Mode an hour or more re-installing a printer (if it would even allow me to do it as I've not tried and things don't just work like they do in regular Windows while in Safe mode).

So that is a big problem, not being able to print out receipts or product information to make buying choices while I can use the browsers without overloading the HDD light.

3. I can't edit old files! It says that with the absence of Audio and other "services" (it lumped them all together in one message), I can't go and edit files I created using a program. And in fact I think its making any new files "unreadable" when I get back to the regular Windows for the same reason in reverse...but I haven't tried that as much as I would need to as hitting my head against the keyboard here so often is giving me a splitting headache trying to naviagte in the primitive world of Safe Mode.

Atari anyone? (just joking...but that is how it feels and looks like on the screen!)

4. My Norton AV and Malwarebytes hate working in the Safe Mode and let me know all the time with annoying pop ups and notifications that I am not protected (see 2 screenshots):

Norton Internet Security

Excessive Read Write overloading HDD-safe-mode-cant-run-av-page-2-ps35464.jpg

Malwarebytes Premium

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Yes I'm happy I can go on line and communicate directly with WindowsSevenForum without the convolulted work around using a more primitive computer to compose items and Emailing them to myself to post here.

Yes I'm happy that the HDD light is OUT! Actually its not on at all while I'm typing on the Word Proessing document and it flashsing on and off while I'm online.

Unfortunately, having BOTH the Word document open and the Web page open and the Paint and other things I used to get screenshots set up to post for WindowsSevenForum causes the Orange light to stay on 100% as it struggles to do all that under Safe Mode.

Yes, some weird things happen....like when trying to order online---I can get a jam when I go to apage with tooo many ads/video ads for me to order something online which I need to do every day... so I'm sent back forced to go and turn on the regular full system in order to do that very slowly.....one click at a time!

At least I have my information stored else I'd be typing my home address.... one letter at a time....over 15 to 20 minutes jst to write a sentence...but MarieSWE may have what services I'm running too much to solve that

A Question, anyone? How do I "exit" Safe Mode and not lose all the programs I have open ? Or is the only way to close everything... shut down (or restart, both methods work) and launch the regular session of Windows again with the over-running HDD light problem slowing me down again!


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15 Apr 2018   #17
XP VM User

Windows7 Professional 64bit
 
 
Opps sorry took too long to reply to just lehnerus2000 and now I see

So Sorry all! I took too long to write this after viewing lehnerus2000's reply and wanting to post my screenshots I didn't mean to ignore all of your excellent replies

Kudos! To Marie! for her list! Great! I'll get to work on it and see my revised posting below here when I respond to the suggestions by others about Macrium and Safe Mode etc....
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15 Apr 2018   #18
Marie SWE

1xWin7 Home X64, 2xWin7 Pro x64, 1xWin 2008 R2 server. 1xWinXP Pro, 1xWin 2k and Linux Mint Mate
 
 

Only a reboot make you come out of safe mode. so be sure to save all files you have open before rebooting.
But before you do, go through my list and perform sfc / scannow before you restart.
I would backup files and maybe do a whole system backup before rebooting. while the hard drive is not so heavily loaded.
But that's me. :)
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15 Apr 2018   #19
Marie SWE

1xWin7 Home X64, 2xWin7 Pro x64, 1xWin 2008 R2 server. 1xWinXP Pro, 1xWin 2k and Linux Mint Mate
 
 

I have not learned Macrium yet, so I pass that question to the others.


Edit:
and yes, it is normal for a lot of things not to work in safe mode, it's the whole point that Windows only loads the key features
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15 Apr 2018   #20
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18.3 MATE, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by XP VM User View Post
First, let me thank lehnerus2000 for his VERY CLEAR! information on using Macrium!
Thanks. :)

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by XP VM User View Post
I wish I could Rep you lehnerus2000 for that but the little window says I must spread around some reps before I do that ...
No problems.
It happens to me too. :)
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