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Windows 7: Adding USB 3.0 to a Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3P MoBo Machine

3 Weeks Ago   #1
baumgrenze

Win 7 Pro 64
 
 
Adding USB 3.0 to a Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3P MoBo Machine

I just discovered that my newly arrived Thermaltake BlacX Duet (ST0014UCLE010049) only transfers via USB 3.0. I bought it because I discovered too late for warranty purposes that only one of the 2 drive bays in an earlier BlacX Duet I have (ST0014UH001772) connects via a SATA cable to the eSATA port on my Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3P mother board, the one closest to the side with the switch on the Duet. It is easy to miss the end of the number. It is truncated on the manual to ST0014U.

THERMALTAKE BLACX DUET ST0014U MANUAL Pdf Download.

The Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3P was made before USB 3.0 was released. I can easily fit another card in the case as only 1 PCIE-16 slot and one PCI slot are currently occupied?

1) Is it true that I can install USB 3.0 on this 'vintage, legacy' motherboard?

2) If so, what should I watch out for in selecting the card? There seem to be many price points.

3) Is it true that some USB 3.0 cables are inferior to others? I never bought into the 'gold' speaker cable for my audio system, but I can accept that some cables may have inferior shielding or some other flaw.

4) I'm tired, but beyond the first Duet what other peripherals might work better with USB 3.0?

thanks
baumgrenze


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3 Weeks Ago   #2
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

"The Thermaltake BlacX Duet ST0014U-D is also backward compatible with USB 2.0 to deliver transfer rates of up to 480Mbps"

Or you can add a pcie to usb 3.0 card if you want faster speeds.

Page 3 of the manual you linked:

Adding USB 3.0 to a Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3P MoBo Machine-blackx.jpg


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3 Weeks Ago   #3
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

I have a MB that has USB 3.0, 3.1 and USB 2.0. The problem is that I haven't seen a device that can make use of USB 3.x high communication speed. In other words, USB 3.0 flash disks or USB 3.0 external HDD disk case has same results on USB 2.0 or 3.0
The bottle neck isn't the USB port. The bottle neck is the device.
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3 Weeks Ago   #4
baumgrenze

Win 7 Pro 64
 
 
Thanks For the Quick Response

Thank you, SIW2 and Megahertz07, for your swift response and comments.

So it is 'easy' to see why Thermaltake dropped the SATA port on the docking station. It was good for 3 gbps vs 4.8 (or 5) gbps for USB 3.0. Both are compared to 0.48 gbps for USB 2.0.

Megahertz07, do you imply that a pcie USB 3.0 card may or may not give anything more than 0.48 gbps with the Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3P?

You help me understand that my question really is, are there inherent data transfer limits to the Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3P that reside deep withing the motherboard?

Can anyone answer this question?

I also still ask if there are real (or only marketing hype) differences in the way in which USB 3.0 cards and cables are made?

I remain open to responses to these latter questions.

thanks,
baumgrenze
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3 Weeks Ago   #5
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

If you install a USB 3.0 PCIe card on your GA-EP35-DS3P it will work as a USB 2.0 and USB 3.0 port, depending on the cable and device you connect to.
The USB 3.x is capable of high speeds. What I said is that it's difficult to find a device that take advantage of the high speed USB 3.0 can deliver.
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3 Weeks Ago   #6
baumgrenze

Win 7 Pro 64
 
 

Thank you for clarifying your intent.

In working on this further, I sent a request to Gigabyte support, but it will be well into next week before I expect a reply.

The support request required that I enter my BIOS version:

Award Software International, Inc. F6 06/18/2009

Is there any reason to be concerned that this almost 10-year-old BIOS might conflict with a USB 3.0 PCIe card, or at least with allowing it to connect at USB 3.0 speeds?

thanks,
baumgrenze


Is there any reason
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3 Weeks Ago   #7
Megahertz07

Windows 7 HP 64
 
 

If your GA-EP35-DS3P is hardware version 2.1, you have the latest BIOS.

I don't think you'll have any issues by adding a USB 3.0 PCIe card.
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2 Weeks Ago   #8
baumgrenze

Win 7 Pro 64
 
 

Here is the reply from Gigabyte support:

Question: If I install a pcie USB 3.0 card, will my transfer rate with an external docking station be 4.8 gbps or is there a lower limit built into the motherboard?

Dear customer,

I ' m sorry to let you know that, due to MB model was over 10 years old, has been discontinue for long time, USB 3.0 interface card not been validated on this board.


Hmmmm.....


Has 'not been validated' is not the same as 'is not compatible with' or 'will not work with' your motherboard.


Is there a simple way to determine which version of PCIe this motherboard is using?

thanks
baumgrenze
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2 Weeks Ago   #9
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

According to this:
GA-EP35-DS3P (rev. 2.1) | Motherboard - GIGABYTE Global


2 x PCI Express x16 slots (The PCIE_16_1 slot supports x16; the PCIE_16_2 supports x4.)
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2 Weeks Ago   #10
johnhoh

Win7 pro x64
 
 

Your specific issue is discussed here:
USB 3.0 Speed on PCIe 2.0 x1 Slot | Tom's Hardware Forum

Run hwinfo64. The motherboard section will report that you have PCI-E version 2 on your board since you have a P35 chipset which is a pci-e 2 board. That means your 1x pci-e slot is fast enough to support usb3. The speeds below are in bytes.
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