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Windows 7: Boot problem on cloned dual-boot SSD

2 Weeks Ago   #71
amblabs

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Windows XP Professional SP3
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by johnhoh View Post
its the same driver that's on the MSI site for XP. Perhaps it contains both versions and detects your OS to see which one to install. In any case, here the MSI XP link. Its the second driver under chipset.

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I downloaded this and tried to install it. It contains a bunch of drivers (graphics, SMbus, AHCI, etc.) but it says that my system is already up to date with all of them. I checked the Device Manager and indeed the versions are the same.

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Note sure if you have seen this, it has some xp ssd driver downloads plus tips for installing xp on an ssd
Installing Windows Xp on SSD disk - WindowsPRO.eu
No, but I just looked at it and basically it's the same stuff as what @SIW2 linked to -- a way to install XP by slipstreaming an AHCI driver into Windows Setup. But I am not trying to install XP, just trying to make an existing XP installation work on a new SSD. And I don't want to do a new install, because it will most likely undo all the updates.


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2 Weeks Ago   #72
johnhoh

Win7 pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by amblabs View Post
No, but I just looked at it and basically it's the same stuff as what @SIW2 linked to -- a way to install XP by slipstreaming an AHCI driver into Windows Setup. But I am not trying to install XP, just trying to make an existing XP installation work on a new SSD. And I don't want to do a new install, because it will most likely undo all the updates.

Yes, I know its a page for slipstreaming, and I know that you are not installing xp fresh. Its just that any page with the title "Do this or else you can't install winxp on an ssd" might as well have the title "Do this or your xp clone of an hdd won't boot on an ssd." That's why I referred you to the page. No idea if the page will help, but that is exactly the type of page we are looking for for guidance.

By the way, have you run the XP SP4 update on your system?

Download Windows XP Service Pack 4 Unofficial - MajorGeeks
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2 Weeks Ago   #73
amblabs

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Windows XP Professional SP3
 
 

@johnhoh

I guess I must have done this slipstream thing when I first installed XP. The machine came installed with Vista on it, and I updated it to Win7. I shrank the C: partition to make room for the D: partition for XP. It's been so long I don't remember what I did exactly.

I am at XP SP3. I didn't know there was an SP4 available. Ah, it's "unofficial". OK, I'll look into it.
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2 Weeks Ago   #74
amblabs

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Windows XP Professional SP3
 
 

I downloaded and installed the Windows XP SP4 unofficial update while booted XP on my HDD. I test booted XP on the HDD and it worked fine, so I cloned it to the SSD. However XP still fails to boot (same symptom) on the SSD. Can't say that I'm surprised, even though I had some hope for a miracle.

Back to the drawing board. Any more ideas?
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2 Weeks Ago   #75
amblabs

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Windows XP Professional SP3
 
 

Update: I went back to the HDD, booted XP, and turned off the "Automatic restart after system failure" option. Interestingly, a bunch of automatic windows updates came in, probably related to the Service Pack 4 that I previously installed. They all seem to be fixes for Microsoft .Net Framework. I let all of them install, even though some of them failed. I then installed Macrium Reflect 7, and proceeded to clone the whole disk to the SSD while running XP.

This time, Macrium fixed the MountedDevices\DosDevices* entries in XP's registry system hive, but left the Win7 one untouched, so I had to manually edit the Win7 one. It appears Macrium will only "fix" the partition on which the system is booted on.

Anyway, after all that, Win7 booted fine on the SSD, but XP failed again. However, instead of just resetting to POST, it got a BSOD "STOP: 0x00007B (0xBA4CF524, 0xC0000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000)". This is identical to the screenshot I posted earlier. I think this is because I turned off the automatic restart after system crash.

So, can anyone deduce anything from this particular STOP code?
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1 Week Ago   #76
starvinmarvin

Win 7 Home Premium 64-bit / Win 8.1 Pro 64-bit dual-boot
 
 

Just a thought about dual-booting Windows. A Microsoft guy told me years ago that you should install the newer version of Windows as the second operating system, not as the first one. I see you have done it the other way 'round.
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1 Week Ago   #77
amblabs

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Windows XP Professional SP3
 
 

@starvinmarvin
The laptop came pre-installed originally with Windows Vista, which I then updated to Windows 7. I then later shrank the C: drive to make room for another partition for Windows XP as D: drive. It worked fine on the original HDD, and also on a cloned HDD, including a second-generation clone HDD-SSD-HDD. The partition order is identical in all clones. The result was that it always works (Win7 and XP both boot fine) when it's on the HDD, but fails (XP won't boot) when it's on the SSD. So the install order of the OS is irrelevant.
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1 Week Ago   #78
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

I just checked a crucial ssd using fsutil fsinfo ntfsinfo d: and it reports 4096 bytes per cluster.

Earlier you ran fdisk with the SSD (/dev/sdb) as an external drive. What does fsutil report when it is an internal disk?
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1 Week Ago   #79
johnhoh

Win7 pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by amblabs View Post
it got a BSOD "STOP: 0x00007B (0xBA4CF524, 0xC0000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000)".
I'm still on the thought that xp is unable to address the ssd due to a driver issue, but have nothing to add other than my previous posts. Here's two posts with symptoms like yours that may be instructive.

How to Fix STOP 0x0000007B BSOD Errors

Blue screen with error message, STOP 0x0000007B (0xBA4CF524, - Microsoft Community
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1 Week Ago   #80
amblabs

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Windows XP Professional SP3
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
I just checked a crucial ssd using fsutil fsinfo ntfsinfo d: and it reports 4096 bytes per cluster.

Earlier you ran fdisk with the SSD (/dev/sdb) as an external drive. What does fsutil report when it is an internal disk?
The "bytes per cluster" as reported by fsutil is 4096 in all cases, whether it's the SSD or the HDD, Win7 or XP. Here is a screenshot (D: is the HDD's XP partition, G: is the SSD's as an external disk, but the result is the same if I swap them around):



I think you're probably more interested in bytes per sector? fsutil reports 512 bytes in all cases, as does fdisk. The interesting difference between the HDD and the SSD is in the fsutil output, the "bytes per physical sector" is shown to be 4096 for the HDD (which is strange), but as "<Not Supported>" for the SSD.

EDIT: The "bytes per physical sector" shows as "<Not Supported>" only when the SSD is connected as an external drive via the SATA-USB adapter. When booted on the SSD, this field reports as 512.
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