1.5TB hard disk shows 1360GB


  1. Posts : 5,405
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1
       #1

    1.5TB hard disk shows 1360GB


    1.5TB hard disk shows 1360GB,why?
    The disk is empty/delete partition formated/create partition/EMPTY.
    OS Win7 ultimate 64bit.
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  2. Posts : 13,354
    Windows 7 Professional x64
       #2

    Hello,

    That space is a discrepancy between manufacturer claims and real storage space. You hard drive is not 1500 GB, as perceived by the OS. It is less, and when you subtract the space of the format, the available space decreases.

    So, what you are experiencing is normal.
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  3. Posts : 5,941
    Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
       #3

    Hi there

    There's been LOADS of threads on this issue.

    Computer memory is actually shown in 1KB (1024 byte) sizes
    On Discs memory is actually shown (By the MANUFACTURER) in REAL size where 1KB = 1000 bytes.

    So your 1.5TB disk which is actually 1.5 X 1000 X 1000 Bytes will be shown slightly less in the computer by Windows as it will measure free space in 1024 byte chunks.

    (Don't forget also some size is used by the Windows file sysytem so even in this case your expected size will be a little less than the actual size).

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  4. jav
    Posts : 713
    Windows 7 Ultimate x86 SP1
       #4

    Terabyte - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    *In standard SI usage, 1 terabyte (TB) equals 1000000000000bytes = 1000^4 or 10^12 bytes.
    *Using the traditional binary interpretation, a terabyte is 1099511627776bytes = 1024^4 = 2^40 bytes = 1 tebibyte (TiB).

    The capacities of computer storage devices are typically specified using their the standard SI meaning of unit prefixes, but many operating systems and applications report in binary-based units. Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) reports decimal units
    The first one is decimical interpretation which is used by hardware manufacturers.
    Second one is Binary interpretation which is used by many Operating systems.

    As you can see difference on your exemple is:
    1,5*1000^4 vs 1,5*1024^4
    OR
    1 500 000 000 000 vs 1 649 267 441 664

    So manufacturer shows (TB) and OS shows (TiB)

    Conclusion:
    At the end 1500000000000 bytes (which your manufactures thinks 1,5 TB) is approximately 1396 GiB (although it says GB) for your OS
    Last edited by jav; 22 Dec 2009 at 15:50.
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  5. Posts : 5,405
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1
    Thread Starter
       #5

    Just a tip..
    In bios shows 1500GB
    In Computer Management/Disk Management shows 1397,26
    In Computer shows 1360GB
    -------------------------------------
    MY Computer
    C:/velociraptor 150GB
    D:/1360GB
    E:/1360GB
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  6. jav
    Posts : 713
    Windows 7 Ultimate x86 SP1
       #6

    panais said:
    Just a tip..
    In bios shows 1500GB
    In Computer Management/Disk Management shows 1397,26
    In Computer shows 1360GB
    -------------------------------------
    MY Computer
    C:/velociraptor 150GB
    D:/1360GB
    E:/1360GB
    That's it see.

    1. BIOS dosen't depend on OS so it shows with the manufacturer's point of view (1500 GB = 1,5 TB)

    2. Computer Management shows as According to binary rules, if you look at my calculations it show the same number 1397 GiB (but it will anyway say GB)

    3. And windows has some hidden important OS files, to which even you don't have access (as you are limited Administrator), so it will not show you and you can't even see what size they are. With 3rd party programmes maybe. So some size of your HD spent there and not shown to you.

    And some space used for Shadow copies of the Windows.

    And then there is a file system, (in your case NTFS) cluster size and so on.(If you really interested: Simple explanation for cluster size: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cluster_size (so you will understand why they play some role on wasted space aswell)

    That's why Windows will show you less HD size (1360 GiB)


    Hope you understand what I meant.
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  7. Posts : 5,405
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit SP1
    Thread Starter
       #7

    jav said:
    panais said:
    Just a tip..
    In bios shows 1500GB
    In Computer Management/Disk Management shows 1397,26
    In Computer shows 1360GB
    -------------------------------------
    MY Computer
    C:/velociraptor 150GB
    D:/1360GB
    E:/1360GB
    That's it see.

    1. BIOS dosen't depend on OS so it shows with the manufacturer's point of view (1500 GB = 1,5 TB)

    2. Computer Management shows as According to binary rules, if you look at my calculations it show the same number 1397 GiB (but it will anyway say GB)

    3. And windows has some hidden important OS files, to which even you don't have access (as you are limited Administrator), so it will not show you and you can't even see what size they are. With 3rd party programmes maybe. So some size of your HD spent there and not shown to you.

    And some space used for Shadow copies of the Windows.

    And then there is a file system, (in your case NTFS) cluster size and so on.(If you really interested: Simple explanation for cluster size: Data cluster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (so you will understand why they play some role on wasted space aswell)

    That's why Windows will show you less HD size (1360 GiB)


    Hope you understand what I meant.
    Yes i understand,thanks.
    ----------------------------
    Its fun for me to watch the <<unchanged>> capacity of my 2 new hard disks.
    I transfer everything i have in them,and the disks are almost empty.
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  8. Posts : 22
    windows 7 ultimate x64
       #8

    its always like this,there is nothing abnormal in it or hdd manfacturer didnt bluff u...its normal what u r facing,and it should happen too.on fat32 it is less and on ntfs it is more...
    if u find a hdd 1.5tb and it is showing 1.5tb,there are 2 possibilities..
    1.u havnt formatted it... :P
    2.u r sleeping and trying to see 1.5tb as 1.5tb in dream
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  9. Posts : 1,419
    Windows 7 7600 1 X64
       #9

    panais said:
    1.5TB hard disk shows 1360GB,why?
    The disk is empty/delete partition formated/create partition/EMPTY.
    OS Win7 ultimate 64bit.
    Welcom Panais to the Windows 7 Support forum.
    The discrepancy you see on space reporting is due to many factors.
    If your drive is the main C: drive the operating system will partition space for the installation of the OS, cab files, dll files etc. These are necessary files for the OS to function, these files are allocated on your drive and take between space.
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