32 bit -to- 64 bit system and OS

BSkiLLs · 24 Dec 2009

Edited: Please start here at link right below if you open this thread as it got messed and confused. Clarified it alittle better to what i was exactly trying to say and get thoughts on.

32 bit -to- 64 bit system and OS

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OK.. As some of you know here. Im pretty good and skilled with all this computer / high tech crap but..

Trying to get some insight from you guys and trying to figure something out and a way to do this so..

Basically asking for a friend of mine trying to set something up for her and get it to work right and cheap.

So basically she has a 32bit vista home prem system and we trying to maybe make hers to win7 home prem but... 64bit upgrade. (disks that i have). was going to try and upgrade hers for free with my disks.

So as i know and you guys know can only upgrade from like home prem to home prem, or ultimate to ultimate etc etc..

but now hers is a 32bit system. my disks are 64 bit win7 home prem.

So thing is what would be easier and better to do or i should say how to get it to be able to be upgraded to the 64bit version. What would be easier and more cost effective to switch hers to 64 bit and be able to then use upgrade to win7 64 bit ??

What would we have to do and how much cash to switch hers from 32bit to 64bit system ??

Think that would be cheaper then to just do a 32 bit win 7 anytime upgrade ??

Plus as because we are trying to get hers to a 64 bit system anyways instead of 32. What do you all think would be better anyways and/or best way to do it in total. whether we keep the same 32 bit to a win7 32bit disk or anytime upgrade or switchin to 64 system and win7 OS.

Any idea's, examples, input etc etc. All is welcome. different ideas and such ??

Hope that made sense..lol

SIW2 · 24 Dec 2009

Hi,

You can use an upgrade version of 7. The fact she has Vista qualifies for the upgrade price.

However, you cannot do an in-place install from Vista 32 bit to 7 64 bit. It has to be a clean install using the upgrade media.

If you use the 32 bit version of 7 - you can do an in-place install.

There is no difference in the price between 32 and 64 bit.

If her machine is 64 bit capable - may as well go for 64 bit version of 7.

You can use your dvd - but she needs a product key of her own . You can't use the same product key on 2 machines .

I believe the student deal for $30 is still going on - that's the cheapest way.

http://windows7.digitalriver.com/sto...=1261714206367

BSkiLLs · 25 Dec 2009

SIW2 said:

Hi,

You can use an upgrade version of 7. The fact she has Vista qualifies for the upgrade price.

However, you cannot do an in-place install from Vista 32 bit to 7 64 bit. It has to be a clean install using the upgrade media.

If you use the 32 bit version of 7 - you can do an in-place install.

There is no difference in the price between 32 and 64 bit.

If her machine is 64 bit capable - may as well go for 64 bit version of 7.

You can use your dvd - but she needs a product key of her own . You can't use the same product key on 2 machines .

I believe the student deal for $30 is still going on - that's the cheapest way.

Windows 7 US Online Store - Student Registration

Well, it's not really capable right now as her machine is a 32bit HP and vista 32 bit home prem system. We kinda want it to be switched to a 64 bit with as i said and you, with a win7 64 bit OS.

She has nobody in college. She is in her 30's and kids are in high school still.

mckillwashere · 25 Dec 2009

Do a fresh install of the 64-bit os.
You cannot "upgrade" from a 32 to a 64 bit.

To prevent any data loss, which will occur since to do a fresh install it requires a formatting, is to back up.

BSkiLLs · 25 Dec 2009

mckillwashere said:

Do a fresh install of the 64-bit os.
You cannot "upgrade" from a 32 to a 64 bit.

To prevent any data loss, which will occur since to do a fresh install it requires a formatting, is to back up.

Cant do a 64 install on a 32bit machine.

That's why im trying to think bout it all and asked this to see and figure out maybe the best, easiest, cheapest way to.

BSkiLLs · 25 Dec 2009

SIW2 said:

Hi,
but she needs a product key of her own . You can't use the same product key on 2 machines .

uhm.. why not.. true i guess but didnt think about that. Thought it would still work with the same. Just like any other program product key.

SIW2 · 25 Dec 2009

I am afraid not.

7 checks the product key and a unique code that identifies the machine online - it does this regularly.

Pretty sure the student deal applies if you have a school email address - a .sch email address works in the UK - must be the case elsewhere.

It is the machine itself that needs to be 64 bit capable. The fact there is a 32 bit o/s on it now means nothing.

It probably is 64 bit capable - as far as I know almost all machines ( apart from netbooks) made during the past 5 years will be. You would need to check the manufacturers website to find out.

Hope it helps.

BSkiLLs · 26 Dec 2009

SIW2 said:

I am afraid not.

7 checks the product key and a unique code that identifies the machine online - it does this regularly.

Pretty sure the student deal applies if you have a school email address - a .sch email address works in the UK - must be the case elsewhere.

It is the machine itself that needs to be 64 bit capable. The fact there is a 32 bit o/s on it now means nothing.

It probably is 64 bit capable - as far as I know almost all machines ( apart from netbooks) made during the past 5 years will be. You would need to check the manufacturers website to find out.

Hope it helps.

Yeah its capable. Has enough ram and etc etc.. but thing is what im wondering asking for ideas as to switch her machine to 64 from 32. Best way or how to do so then we could afterwards put a win 64 bit OS on it. ??

or other idea's. As so far cant really figure it out right in my head. well i can but just have to many different ideas in my head.

Seems if they check the key then even tho it is a legal legit copy but.. if will not work that way then guess kinda stuck having to have her go through the anytime upgrade system way then.. i dunno.

BSkiLLs · 30 Dec 2009

By the way i would like to add. We are not trying to do anything illegal here by doing this as we are just trying to see if it will work mainly also because of trying to get the machine switched over to a 64 instead of a 32 so was going to do this in a so called testing stage.

Still was going to use my upgrade disks as a tester or a 32bit upgrade disk. I don't see why it wouldn't work with the product key that's on the label or if it is in use.

Either way actually just trying to come up with a way to switch it over in any shape or form that we may or will have to take.

Kari · 30 Dec 2009

BSkiLLs said:

OK.. As some of you know here. Im pretty good and skilled with all this computer / high tech sh*t but..

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BSkiLLs said:

So as i know and you guys know can only upgrade from like home prem to home prem, or ultimate to ultimate etc etc..

No, I don't know. You can in-place upgrade from Vista Home Basic to Seven Home Basic, Home Premium, Ultimate or Enterprise. You can in-place upgrade from Vista Home Premium to Seven Home Premium, Ultimate or Enterprise, and you can in-place upgrade Vista Ultimate to Seven Ultimate or Seven Enterprise.

Only Seven Professional is a bit difficult, you can in-place upgrade to it only from Vista Business.

BSkiLLs said:

but now hers is a 32bit system. my disks are 64 bit win7 home prem.

Every junior high school student with 10 hours of computer studies knows you can not install a 64-bit OS on 32-bit hardware, or that you can not in-place a 32-bit Windows with a 64-bit Windows.

BSkiLLs said:

So thing is what would be easier and better to do or i should say how to get it to be able to be upgraded to the 64bit version. What would be easier and more cost effective to switch hers to 64 bit and be able to then use upgrade to win7 64 bit ??

You need a 64-bit capable computer i.e. you have to upgrade hardware.

BSkiLLs said:

What would we have to do and how much cash to switch hers from 32bit to 64bit system ??

Think that would be cheaper then to just do a 32 bit win 7 anytime upgrade ??

Cost of upgrading a 32-bit machine with a 32-bit Win7 = cost of Win7. Cost of upgrading a 32-bit machine with a 64-bit Win7 = cost of Win7 + cost of new 64-bit hardware. If you really try, you might figure out which would be cheaper.

BSkiLLs said:

Plus as because we are trying to get hers to a 64 bit system anyways instead of 32. What do you all think would be better anyways and/or best way to do it in total. whether we keep the same 32 bit to a win7 32bit disk or anytime upgrade or switchin to 64 system and win7 OS.

Any idea's, examples, input etc etc. All is welcome. different ideas and such ??

Hope that made sense..lol

Nope. Referring to all above, this makes no sence. Can really not understand you.

BSkiLLs said:

Well, it's not really capable right now as her machine is a 32bit HP and vista 32 bit home prem system. We kinda want it to be switched to a 64 bit with as i said and you, with a win7 64 bit OS.

I repeat: A 32-BIT WINDOWS VISTA CAN NOT BE UPGRADED WITH A 64-BIT WINDOWS 7, AND A 64-BIT OS CAN NOT BE INSTALLED ON A 32-BIT MACHINE!

BSkiLLs said:

SIW2 said:

Hi,
but she needs a product key of her own . You can't use the same product key on 2 machines .

uhm.. why not.. true i guess but didnt think about that. Thought it would still work with the same. Just like any other program product key.

See the first quote in this post and my short comment to it.

BSkiLLs said:

Yeah its capable. Has enough ram and etc etc.. but thing is what im wondering asking for ideas as to switch her machine to 64 from 32. Best way or how to do so then we could afterwards put a win 64 bit OS on it. ??

I really understood from everything you said earlier her machine is NOT capable to run a 64-bit OS. I really recommend a bit less "dunno lol" and a bit more clear text about the issue.

Your options are: A clean install of either a 32-bit or 64-bit Windows (any version), or an in-place upgrade from current Vista Home Premium to Win7 Home Premium, Ultimate or Enterprise.

Kari