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Windows 7: Solid State Drives

04 Jan 2010   #21
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
I have 2 SSDs (for 2 different systems) - one Intel 80GB and one OCZ 60GB. In my book there is nothing that can speed up your system as much as an SSD for the same amount of Dollars. The OCZ Vertex 30GB was on sale at Newegg for $99. That is a wonderful disk and completely sufficient for the Windows7 OS. Just put your data on the HDD.
Win7 supports Trim and also a few tweaks like alignment and service disabling (e.g. superfetch). So you really need not do much tweaking yourself. I would not want to go back to HDDs for the OS.
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The OCZ 30Gb Vertex is a excellent drive, based on the Indulux controller.
Not to mention, a great entry level point to the SSD world, without breaking the bank.
(At the price these sell for, I honestly dont think there is a better SSD, TBH)

Downside, it'll only take the OS, but non-the-less will still speed everything up overall
Even with most DATA on spinning drives.


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04 Jan 2010   #22
FuturDreamz

Windows 8 Pro (32-bit)
 
 

A question though.
when I installed Home Premium (from my mom's disk - so i just need to activate it and install drivers when I get my kit) onto the main partition, I noticed it only used 8gb instead of 16gb for Enterprise. why is that?
and following that if I have that plus ten applications/addons the biggest one is openoffice, and 1gb of music and some documents, 30gb will be just hunky-dory. correct?
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04 Jan 2010   #23
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by IceFire View Post
A question though.
when I installed Home Premium (from my mom's disk - so i just need to activate it and install drivers when I get my kit) onto the main partition, I noticed it only used 8gb instead of 16gb for Enterprise. why is that?
and following that if I have that plus ten applications/addons the biggest one is openoffice, and 1gb of music and some documents, 30gb will be just hunky-dory. correct?

With a 30GB Vertex, this is how i set mine up:

MOVED: Documents, pictures, music, videos to a spinning drive
MOVED: IE cache and Firefox Cache to a spinning drive
MOVED: TEMP folder to a spinning drive

Disabled and deleted the HIBERFILE
Disabled PAGEFILE (this can also just be moved a spinning drive)
Disabled System Restore ... ((Note: I wouldnt do this unless you make constant(weekly) Full backups with either Windows, Acronis, Paragon .. whatever -- others may frown on this, but this is how I do it --- backups will be soley on you!))

Disabled Windows Defrag and Turned off its Scheduling

After Doing all of this, My Windows 7 64bit + all my programs uses approx 14GB space now.

I also have a GAMES folder on a WD 640GB drive that i install all games too.


This how i done my 30GB.

If you want music, games, or any other DATA (excluding programs) on the SSD, then you will need larger one IMO.
the 30GB vertex is without a doubt a awesome drive for the money, but its also only intended as a boot/OS drive. not really for DATA storage.

how you decide to do it is your call, but generally speaking, reducing the amount of writes is a common practice for most
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04 Jan 2010   #24
FuturDreamz

Windows 8 Pro (32-bit)
 
 

yeah I was just wondering because this laptop only has room for one drive so I would like to have documents and music on it; should only be about 1gb. I'm planning to have my 60GB video collection on my old drive in an enclosure though.
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04 Jan 2010   #25
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

In that case, youd be very crammped for space Im afraid, or at least would be extremely limited.

In your case, you may want to try at least a 60GB.

Or at least, i would if only had the option of 1 drive.

the 30GB really only makes sense if have other spinning drives to house all your other DATA.

but in the end, its your call.
you know more than anyone else how much total space you'll need
but you need to think of the future to, as you aquire more things, as the 30GB will severly limit your ability to expand
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04 Jan 2010   #26
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by IceFire View Post
yeah I was just wondering because this laptop only has room for one drive so I would like to have documents and music on it; should only be about 1gb. I'm planning to have my 60GB video collection on my old drive in an enclosure though.

I think Wishmaster is correct. For a laptop, 30GB is too tight. That will be no fun. You should at least go with this one ( Newegg.com - OCZ Vertex Turbo OCZSSD2-1VTXT60G 2.5" 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - Solid State Disks ). But that is, of course, a good jump in price. Just make sure the drive comes with Firmware level 1.4. This is the one with Trim. Windows 7 supports Trim and it also does all the adjustments for the disk (alignment) and the OS (shutting off functions like superfetch, defrag, etc.) at installation. Else the measures that Wishmaster described are all very useful.
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05 Jan 2010   #27
FuturDreamz

Windows 8 Pro (32-bit)
 
 

the OCZ you linked to definately sounds good and has over 80% 5 out of 5 rating. alas it's only $100 less than my laptop (bargain bin special), and I'm not entirely sure if The difference will be as noticeable compared to cheaper ssds because I have an Atom processor.
these are kinda what I'm looking at.
64GB SATA II $100-$200 search
I'm looking at the PQI because it seems to have the fastest reads, but I need to find real reviews.
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05 Jan 2010   #28
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Sorry ICEFIRE, i would love to give advice on those, but I know nothing about them and couldn't say anything good or bad, on those particular drives, on how well they perform
Perhaps someone else can help.

I only know about the OCZ Vertex series drives myself.
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05 Jan 2010   #29
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi all

PLEASE PLEASE do a bit of research before posting stuff which is misleading -- especially in regard to new technology that you haven't actually tried on your own machines yet.

First in most typical computers running Windows (and that's about 90% of Windows machines) the MAJOR BOTTLENECK isn't actually the RAM or even the Graphics cards but it's the hideousely slow I/O subsystem.

Modern CPU's have more than enough power to overcome problems of not enough RAM (within reason) but slow Disks will kill any machine STONE DEAD.

(Of course if you have a stupidly small amount of RAM then no solution will help other than increasing the RAM - however W7 will run quite nicely even on a 1GB RAM netbook provided you aren't running too many apps concurrently).

SSD's ARE very much used when you want to increase performance - especially if you can load the OS on them and don't have a heavy duty read / write cycle.

The next generation will address some of the long term degradation issues and will of course come down very much in price -- like "conventional" HDD's.

Expect to see a proliferation of these devices at affordable prices this year.

If you want to speed up even an older machine -- faster disks will yield better performance than almost any other trick you can do to optimize your machine.

Cheers
jimbo
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05 Jan 2010   #30
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

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PLEASE PLEASE do a bit of research before posting stuff which is misleading -- especially in regard to new technology that you haven't actually tried on your own machines yet.
Jimbo, what is that supposed to mean. I am running an OCZ Vertex SSD on one machine and an Intel SSD on another machine. I am very well aware of what it can and what it can't do. After nearly a year of experimenting with them I know they can speed up your system significantly - especially with Windows7 if the SSD has Trim support.
Your points on RAM, etc. are well taken and I agree that the system has to be somehow balanced. But even with RAM constraints, you should get a good performance boost because having the page file on the SSD should speed things up significantly. That, however, I have not experienced myself because my systems have plenty of RAM.
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