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Windows 7: Seagate 1.5TB Harddrive

20 Jan 2010   #11
ignatzatsonic

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Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

I was looking at this one.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/NewPro...82E16822148412

The one you linked is 145 plus shipping on my PC; if you are getting it for 90 plus shipping, I assume you have some special price not available to mere mortals.

The one you show has only 1 review; from just a couple of days ago.

I assume that means it is a brand new model or rarely purchased--both of which would spook me.

It may be the absolute equivalent of the one I linked to--just a retail kit. Retail kits are outsold by OEMs at Newegg, which may explain the single review.

Go to Seagate's own site and see if they are equivalent other than packaging.

It might be an "enterprise level" drive rather than a consumer drive.

Personally--without knowing more, I would avoid it for that reason alone. I can't read about its track record and don't know if it is equivalent to the one with modest reviews.


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20 Jan 2010   #12
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Odd, that is an atypical page for Newegg, because I didn't see any detailed specs for the drive. I wil probably order the one in question, with or without reviews and keep my fingers crossed. I noticed one of the reviews complaining about poor support at Seagate, but I have RMAed a couple of their drives without any problems.
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20 Jan 2010   #13
ignatzatsonic

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The one you mentioned; info from seagate

ST315005N4A1AS-RK

ST315005N4A1AS-RK Barracuda 3.5-inch SATA 5900 RPM 1.5TB Hard Drive | Seagate

The one I mentioned:

ST31500541AS Barracuda LP SATA 3Gb/s 1.5TB Hard Drive | Seagate

At first glance, they may be identical?
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20 Jan 2010   #14
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

After checking here:

Seagate Barracuda 1.5 TB 5900RPM SATA 3Gb/s 32 MB Cache 3.5 Inch Internal Desktop Hard Drive ST315005N4A1AS-RK-Retail Kit - Compare Prices

I've had second thoughts. I guess what they say about things that seem too good to be true usually are.
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20 Jan 2010   #15
ignatzatsonic

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Maybe a good move on your part.

FYI: The 1.5 green WD is periodically available at 99.99 free shipping in USA from Newegg. This model:

WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0 1.5TB SATA 3.0 - OEM

has only 3 platters, a good thing. (You can tell that from the 00P8B0 suffix)

Seagate had it together 2 or 3 years ago, but may be slipping, at least with some models.
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20 Jan 2010   #16
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi there
SLOW I/O is the one thing most people seem to put up with --but is usually the SINGLEMOST CAUSE OF POOR PERFORMANCE.

The 5900 RPM is OK if the disk will be used for DATA / Music etc only --but I would recommend NOT putting a paging or Photoshop scratch volumes on it.

You can actully have an OS partition on it however since once W7 is loaded and the paging files initialized data reads from the actual W7 OS aren't that frequent.

So provided you DON'T put the paging or Photoshop scratch files on it it should be OK for a cheap mass storage volume.

Incidentally if you use database software such as MySQL don't put the DB index areas on this disk either (better don't put the DB on it at all) since any DB query is highly I/O bound and will result in poor performance if you have several concurrent users querying the DB.

Cheers
jimbo
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20 Jan 2010   #17
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
Maybe a good move on your part.

FYI: The 1.5 green WD is periodically available at 99.99 free shipping in USA from Newegg. This model:

WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0 1.5TB SATA 3.0 - OEM

has only 3 platters, a good thing. (You can tell that from the 00P8B0 suffix)

Seagate had it together 2 or 3 years ago, but may be slipping, at least with some models.
Newegg and I have had a permanent parting of our ways. It wouldn't matter to me if they were giving the drives away free, I would never order it from them.
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20 Jan 2010   #18
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
Hi there
SLOW I/O is the one thing most people seem to put up with --but is usually the SINGLEMOST CAUSE OF POOR PERFORMANCE.

The 5900 RPM is OK if the disk will be used for DATA / Music etc only --but I would recommend NOT putting a paging or Photoshop scratch volumes on it.

You can actully have an OS partition on it however since once W7 is loaded and the paging files initialized data reads from the actual W7 OS aren't that frequent.

So provided you DON'T put the paging or Photoshop scratch files on it it should be OK for a cheap mass storage volume.

Incidentally if you use database software such as MySQL don't put the DB index areas on this disk either (better don't put the DB on it at all) since any DB query is highly I/O bound and will result in poor performance if you have several concurrent users querying the DB.

Cheers
jimbo
It wasn't the performance of the drive that bothered me, it was the fact that every review shown on the page that I linked (post #14), spoke of mechanical failures.
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20 Jan 2010   #19
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister View Post
Newegg and I have had a permanent parting of our ways. It wouldn't matter to me if they were giving the drives away free, I would never order it from them.
Well that is too bad to hear. Almost everybody that I work with buys almost exclusively with NewEgg. The only problem I ever had was when placing an order for work, on a corporate card which did not have the work address on record and the order was held. Seemed customer service was really difficult to work with on the matter and nothing over the phone could resolve the issue. Other than that though, all of my personal orders have been handled very fast, everything has been correct and i've never had a need to return a single thing to them. I just checked and I've placed 22 different orders.
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20 Jan 2010   #20
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister View Post
Newegg and I have had a permanent parting of our ways. It wouldn't matter to me if they were giving the drives away free, I would never order it from them.
Well that is too bad to hear. Almost everybody that I work with buys almost exclusively with NewEgg. The only problem I ever had was when placing an order for work, on a corporate card which did not have the work address on record and the order was held. Seemed customer service was really difficult to work with on the matter and nothing over the phone could resolve the issue. Other than that though, all of my personal orders have been handled very fast, everything has been correct and i've never had a need to return a single thing to them. I just checked and I've placed 22 different orders.

More on topic with the thread, I used to use Seagate drives almost exclusively because their performance was great and their failure rates were low. However, it seems as drive capacity has increased, that Seagate has suffered lots of firmware issues and failing drives...so I'm more or less back to using Western Digital for my mechanical drives these days.
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