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Windows 7: Patriot 32GB SATA II SSD Solid State Hard

15 Mar 2010   #11
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister View Post
Thanks, you covered the full gambit, except my first question. What determines whether a SSD will be bootable or not? I'm not sure, but I imagine that it is whether or not it would be listed as a boot option in the BIOS. A flash drive appears in the group with regular harddrives on my system. Would that be the same with a SSD?
1. Don't read more into the SSD than there is. It is a normal Sata drive as far as the system is concerned - and of course it is bootable.
2. The 6GB discussion is a red herring. pparks is right. The SSD average transfer rate is 200MB/sec = about 2GB/sec. You are well served with the current 3GB bus.
3. TRIM is nice for write speed, but the system does not "write" that much. That is more important for moving large data files around - but we are not there yet due to the price of the SSDs. I have a 1st generation Intel on this system and it performs very well. 90% of the systems activities are reads - and even there the transfer time is of minor interest because the system reads are typically for small amounts of data. What makes the difference is the access time (0.1ms or less versus typically 17ms for a rotating disk).


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16 Mar 2010   #12
mpcrsc562

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

would this be the ps-100 ssd?
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16 Mar 2010   #13
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mpcrsc562 View Post
would this be the ps-100 ssd?
I don't see that in the product title (Patriot PE32GS25SSDR)
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16 Mar 2010   #14
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

I also found a 64GB Patriot, but it costs an additional $24.56, but I was already at the budget that I set with the smaller drive, and I don't know that the additional space would serve me well, using it only for the OS. However, it does have a 10 warranty, rather than only a 2 year warranty of the smaller drive, and it is much faster.
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16 Mar 2010   #15
mpcrsc562

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

just checked and they are not the same.

i had looked at that drive before i bought a ps-100 ssd. but i saw on the patriot website that they were end of life and more importantly, the place i wanted to buy from were sold out of them.

if you are sold on that particular drive though, as an end of life product, there won't be any firmware upgrade coming for it. speaking of firmware upgrades too, most, if not all, ssd firmware upgrades will wipe all of the data off of the drive--so that is something to think about.

though i can't speak for that patriot drive, i'll be sending my ps-100 to patriot this week.

also, if you can get the budget right, i'd really suggest a 64gb model over a 30 or 32gb model. it is not impossible to get everything you need on the smaller drive, but i found myself constantly watching my drive for how much space remained.
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16 Mar 2010   #16
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mpcrsc562 View Post
though i can't speak for that patriot drive, i'll be sending my ps-100 to patriot this week.
Did it die, or do you have to do that to upgrade the firmware?
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also, if you can get the budget right, i'd really suggest a 64gb model over a 30 or 32gb model. it is not impossible to get everything you need on the smaller drive, but i found myself constantly watching my drive for how much space remained.
I had thought about that,but I'm not even sure about the price differential that I mentioned, because I didn't notice that the price was for an auction, rather than a buy it now. If by some miracle it doesn't go much higher before the end of sale, I might buy it, but its too soon to tell.
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16 Mar 2010   #17
mpcrsc562

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister View Post
Did it die, or do you have to do that to upgrade the firmware?
well, i guess kinda sorta died... no, well... maybe... massive heart attack requiring triple bypass surgery

in a nutshell, when i got the drive, it was running the old firmware. about a week later, patriot released an update. the update didn't go well and i thought it was bricked from that point. i tried running it again and it flashed. so, after i reinstalled my os image, i had it running ahci mode and all was well. one day, i booted to a black screen which read "error reading boot configurartion data." i couldn't get it started with the win7 dvd either. so, i switched the controller back to native ide and tried to boot from disc again. sucess--but short lived. got the same boot config error after another reboot and the drive wouldn't show up in BIOS. contacted patriot support and told of the problem. they replied that i should return it for warranty rma.

before i actually started the procedure, i erased the drive and installed it into my vista machine. it ran good for a while but performance degraded to the point where you woulda thought that i was running vista on 64MB of ram--really slow and sluggish.

contacted patriot to actually intiate the rma last friday and they sent me the info today. going to ship it out wednesday or thursday this week.
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16 Mar 2010   #18
mpcrsc562

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

oh, and as for your question about using the ssd as the os drive and profiles and data on another, i used this tutorial:
How-To: Optimize Your Windows Profile and Media Storage with a SSD | Maximum PC
knowing the wealth of knowledge within the seven forums tutorials, i'm sure you'd be able to find something on par or better within. but, just showing you what i used.

how my system now breaks down partition-wise:
64gb kingston ssdnow v series - windows 7
1tb wd caviar black - 2 partitions: user profiles/data and games
750gb seagate - media

i was running the pagefile on the wd caviar... but i read of someone using a kingston drive who, like me, has 8 gb installed memory and has a 2 gb pagefile residing on the ssd. so i'm trying that to see how it works.
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16 Mar 2010   #19
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

When reading the specs on some of these SSDs, they appear to be almost invulnerable. On one drive, it said that it could withstand 1500Gs for .5 seconds. That is difficult to believe, because that really is a lot of Gs. No moving parts to wear out or heat up. I'm guessing, but I imagine that the controller is the weak link, otherwise it would be difficult to understand the need for an RMA at all...unless you bought one made on monday.
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16 Mar 2010   #20
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

mpcrsc562,

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i was running the pagefile on the wd caviar... but i read of someone using a kingston drive who, like me, has 8 gb installed memory and has a 2 gb pagefile residing on the ssd. so i'm trying that to see how it works.
I have no doubt that would work, but I wouldn't put a pagefile on a SSD, because of the write wear aspect. I would keep it on another drive, as you did before.
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