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Windows 7: Missing alot of HDD

09 Apr 2010   #11
NoN

Windows 7 Professional SP1 - x64 [Non-UEFI Boot]
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by devildog93 View Post
I appreciate what you are saying.....I understand that.

I bought a 500 GB HDD. I only got 465 GB. Because of the discrepancy.

I am missing ANOTHER 97.7 GB on top.


So the 500 GB HDD is missing 97.7 GB(unexplained) + 35 GB (off the top) = 132.7 GB MISSING

That's 26.4% of my original purchase.

This is WAY more than the difference between what they say you get and actually get.

I only lost 69 GB out the box on my SeaGate 1TB external HDD. No extra unexplained missing space on that drive.
It might be because the drive is already NTFS formated (more secure).

You will have to format in FAT32 to gain some space.


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09 Apr 2010   #12
devildog93

Windows 7 Professional
 
 

Not sure if this is the screen shot you want BUT..... there is a 96 GB file under system with a random number/letter labelled folder. Safe, in my opinion, to assume this is the missing space.

P.S. cool program.

Just got bunch of responses while doing this. This response to NOTSOGREYMATTER. Thanks for suggestion and all others.

Is any way to find out what Windows is doing with it. Maybe like another suggestion that partitioned wrong.


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09 Apr 2010   #13
not so gray matter

W7 Ult. x64 | OS X
 
 

Here is what I think your HDD will look like:
Missing alot of HDD-examplehd2.png
In others words, a hard drive with more unallocated space than it should have. The one in the picture is a 1TB drive. When properly formatted, the partitions will add up to 930GB. However, because there is only one partition with 800GB, there is 130GB of unallocated space. The way to correct this is to resize the 800GB partition to 930GB.

In partition wizard:

Select the partition (In my case Example HD [800GB NTFS])

Click Move/Resize

Change the size of the partition to the maximum allowed (In my case 930GB)

Note: If you partition doesn't show a larger than normal unallocated space then either your computer isnt detecting it correctly, or it is smaller than you believe. You can see the full size via the top bar which in mine says Disk 3 931.51GB ( SAMSUNG HD 103UJ )


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09 Apr 2010   #14
devildog93

Windows 7 Professional
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by notsograymatter View Post
Here is what I think your HDD will look like:
Attachment 66161
In others words, a hard drive with more unallocated space than it should have. The one in the picture is a 1TB drive. When properly formatted, the partitions will add up to 930GB. However, because there is only one partition with 800GB, there is 130GB of unallocated space. The way to correct this is to resize the 800GB partition to 930GB.

In partition wizard:

Select the partition (In my case Example HD [800GB NTFS])

Click Move/Resize

Change the size of the partition to the maximum allowed (In my case 930GB)


Ok, here is that shot. In this shot it is showing only one partition, of the full 465 GB.

But shot from my last post was showing a missing 96.xxGB. Am I doing this wrong?


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09 Apr 2010   #15
not so gray matter

W7 Ult. x64 | OS X
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by NoN View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by devildog93 View Post
I appreciate what you are saying.....I understand that.

I bought a 500 GB HDD. I only got 465 GB. Because of the discrepancy.

I am missing ANOTHER 97.7 GB on top.


So the 500 GB HDD is missing 97.7 GB(unexplained) + 35 GB (off the top) = 132.7 GB MISSING

That's 26.4% of my original purchase.

This is WAY more than the difference between what they say you get and actually get.

I only lost 69 GB out the box on my SeaGate 1TB external HDD. No extra unexplained missing space on that drive.
It might be because the drive is already NTFS formated (more secure).

You will have to format in FAT32 to gain some space.
In partition wizard, the maximum FAT32 partition size I can create is about 350GB. That is just a limitation of PW i believe, but you can format your entire drive as NTFS, as seen I have a 930GB drive formatted as NTFS.
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09 Apr 2010   #16
not so gray matter

W7 Ult. x64 | OS X
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by devildog93 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by notsograymatter View Post
Here is what I think your HDD will look like:
Attachment 66161
In others words, a hard drive with more unallocated space than it should have. The one in the picture is a 1TB drive. When properly formatted, the partitions will add up to 930GB. However, because there is only one partition with 800GB, there is 130GB of unallocated space. The way to correct this is to resize the 800GB partition to 930GB.

In partition wizard:

Select the partition (In my case Example HD [800GB NTFS])

Click Move/Resize

Change the size of the partition to the maximum allowed (In my case 930GB)


Ok, here is that shot. In this shot it is showing only one partition, of the full 465 GB.

But shot from my last post was showing a missing 96.xxGB. Am I doing this wrong?
That looks correct to me, did you backup your data first? BTW, Once you hit OK, you will also have to hit Apply on the left hand side (This process allows you to string multiple processes together.)
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09 Apr 2010   #17
devildog93

Windows 7 Professional
 
 

the last snipshot was taken as is. Only had the one partition. I did no editing, so I did not apply.


You may have missed ths snipshot from earlier as I was editing while you were posting and may have got over looked. You can see a 96 GB file with random letter/number name. This is my missing space, just don't know what to do with it.

There is also a 3 GB file, random numver/lettter folder.

I have exposed all hidden folders, and system folders in Windows, but these two files only appear when I use the PartitionWizard program you suggested.


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09 Apr 2010   #18
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

This could be the shadowstorage. Open an elevated Command Prompt (run as admin) and paste this command in:

vssadmin list shadowstorage

Then look for your drive and the 3 numbers (used, allocated, maximum). It would be the allocated that is the current size of the reserved shadowstorage (the area where restore points go).

If that is it, post back and I tell you how to resize/delete it.
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09 Apr 2010   #19
devildog93

Windows 7 Professional
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
This could be the shadowstorage. Open an elevated Command Prompt (run as admin) and paste this command in:

vssadmin list shadowstorage

Then look for your drive and the 3 numbers (used, allocated, maximum). It would be the allocated that is the current size of the reserved shadowstorage (the area where restore points go).

If that is it, post back and I tell you how to resize/delete it.
Under the drive I:\
Used Shadow Copy Storage Space: 95.864 GB <20%>
Allocated Shadow Copy Storage Space: 98.786 GB <21%>
Maximum Shadow Copy Storage Space: 139.728 GB <30%>
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09 Apr 2010   #20
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by devildog93 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
This could be the shadowstorage. Open an elevated Command Prompt (run as admin) and paste this command in:

vssadmin list shadowstorage

Then look for your drive and the 3 numbers (used, allocated, maximum). It would be the allocated that is the current size of the reserved shadowstorage (the area where restore points go).

If that is it, post back and I tell you how to resize/delete it.
Under the drive I:\
Used Shadow Copy Storage Space: 95.864 GB <20%>
Allocated Shadow Copy Storage Space: 98.786 GB <21%>
Maximum Shadow Copy Storage Space: 139.728 GB <30%>
There you go - there are your 98 GBs that are missing. And it will continue to grab space all the way to 140GBs. If you want to reduce it, do the following:

1. right click on "Computer" in the right pane of Start
2. go to Properties
3. go to "Advanced System settings" on the top left
4. go to the "system protection" button
4a. highlight the drive in question
5. click "configure"
6. there you can adjust the slider to any value you like - it should be sitting at appr. 140GB right now.
7. don't forget "Apply" and OK
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