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Windows 7: Which processor should I get?

07 May 2010   #11
Mellon Head

Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual boot
 
 

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I wouldn't put a lot of stock in unlocking ANY core.
My dual core came unlocked from the factory. What's wrong with an unlocked multiplier? I don't overclock to begin with, but it's nice to have that ability in the event I change my mind.
I don't mean unlocking the multiplier, as in a Black Edition CPU, I mean taking a dual core and unlocking the flagged and locked defective cores to make it a quad or tri-core.

Some people have "unlocked" the "extra" broken cores in their CPUs with some BIOS tricks, and have been able to use them with variable results. They're "locked" for a reason, they're defective or unstable.


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07 May 2010   #12
mpcrsc562

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MadMaxData View Post
My dual core came unlocked from the factory. What's wrong with an unlocked multiplier? I don't overclock to begin with, but it's nice to have that ability in the event I change my mind.
Not unlocked multiplier as in Black Edition processors, but a quad core that has not passed QA has the one or two extra cores disabled. Certain mobo makers have included "bells and whistles" in the BIOS to enable the end user to unlock those disabled cores. So, a person could by an Athlon or Phenom X2, pop it in the mobo and within the BIOS settings actually make that dual core into a quad core.
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07 May 2010   #13
mpcrsc562

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Mellon Head View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MadMaxData View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Mellon Head View Post
I wouldn't put a lot of stock in unlocking ANY core.
My dual core came unlocked from the factory. What's wrong with an unlocked multiplier? I don't overclock to begin with, but it's nice to have that ability in the event I change my mind.
I don't mean unlocking the multiplier, as in a Black Edition CPU, I mean taking a dual core and unlocking the flagged and locked defective cores to make it a quad or tri-core.

Some people have "unlocked" the "extra" broken cores in their CPUs with some BIOS tricks, and have been able to use them with variable results. They're "locked" for a reason, they're defective or unstable.
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MadMaxData View Post
My dual core came unlocked from the factory. What's wrong with an unlocked multiplier? I don't overclock to begin with, but it's nice to have that ability in the event I change my mind.
Not unlocked multiplier as in Black Edition processors, but a quad core that has not passed QA has the one or two extra cores disabled. Certain mobo makers have included "bells and whistles" in the BIOS to enable the end user to unlock those disabled cores. So, a person could by an Athlon or Phenom X2, pop it in the mobo and within the BIOS settings actually make that dual core into a quad core.
We were both on the same train of thought on this one , I guess I took too long to type my response.
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07 May 2010   #14
MadMaxData

Windows 7 Enterprise x64
 
 

Okay, I misunderstood, and thought you were talking about the multiplier. Thanks for the extra info on the cores. Guess I need to catch up on the newest AMD technology. I haven't really researched CPU's since the socket 939 CPU's were just released.
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08 May 2010   #15
Fhadso

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Would I be good with a Phenom II X2?
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08 May 2010   #16
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

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Would I be good with a Phenom II X2?
Yes...quad cores aren't as beneficial with gaming as they are with video encoding and such. A solid dual core can provide tons of performance.
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08 May 2010   #17
Mellon Head

Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual boot
 
 

Yes, an X2 would be fine.

It's economics. If you can manage to afford a Phenom II X4, that would be the one I would suggest, as it will serve you longer before an upgrade is "needed." Wanted, really.

But if you're on a budget, there is nothing wrong with a dual core, and the Phenom X2 series is actually a really good buy for good performance at a lower cost. It has the advantage over the Athlon duals in that it has a larger cache.

As I mentioned earlier, don't bother with a Black Edition if you don't ever plan to over clock. You pay a premium for the unlocked multi. If it's on sale, well then yeah, but otherwise, a locked version will cost less.
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08 May 2010   #18
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Mellon Head View Post
It's economics. If you can manage to afford a Phenom II X4, that would be the one I would suggest, as it will serve you longer before an upgrade is "needed." Wanted, really.
My response would be that by the time an upgrade is "needed", there will be far newer chips which will require newer motherboards, memory, etc. So, get what you can get today and be happy. And besides, 5 years from today, the dual core or the quad core would both be pathetic and outdated based on what is available.
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08 May 2010   #19
Product FRED

Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit
 
 

Just grab a Phenom II X4, it's not that expensive. And as pparks said, you'll benefit from the upgrade over time. It's better to be ahead of the curve. And there are uses for it already.
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08 May 2010   #20
Mellon Head

Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual boot
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
My response would be that by the time an upgrade is "needed", there will be far newer chips which will require newer motherboards, memory, etc. So, get what you can get today and be happy. And besides, 5 years from today, the dual core or the quad core would both be pathetic and outdated based on what is available.
Oh, I agree with that completely. My point was that the "usable life" of the CPU will last longer with a quad vs. a dual core. As more apps begin to take advantage of quad cores, the quad will be obsolete later than the dual. In 5 years, there's definitely going to be something much much better, but the OP will get more value for his dollar with a quad in the long term, as long as it's within his budget.
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