Which processor should I get?

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  1. Posts : 21
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64
       #1

    Which processor should I get?


    I plan on using my new buld for gaming and I'm wanting a faster computer than my TouchSmart with a Turion X2 64.

    I also don't want to spend more than $100 on it, and thus far I have compiled a list of processors that I'm good with having. But I want to know what would be the best deal, with the price and performance ratio.

    Athlon II X3 @ 2.9 GHz

    Athlon II X2 @ 3.1 GHz


    Athlon II X4 @ 2.6 GHz

    Phenom II X2 @ 3.1 GHz

    Athlon II X4 @ 2.8 GHz

    Phenom II X2 Black Edition @ 3.2 GHz

    Athlon II X2 @ 2.8 GHz

    I plan on staying away from Intel, simply because I've had bad experiences with them. If there are even better ones then that, I need one that is compatible with Socket AM3, and uses no more than 140W.
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  2. Posts : 1,506
    W7 Ult. x64 | OS X
       #2

    Personally, I'd recommend a Phenom II X4 if you really want quad core. You'll get a million different suggestions here, some say that you can overclock the crappier (Athlon) processors, others say you should just get a dual core.

    If you want the power of quad core, you might as well get one with a decent cache size. Granted, you can overclock the slower processors, but I think you'll have much better luck if you buy a Phenom II X4 at a little lower speed than an Athlon II X4 and overclock the Phenom. The Phenom will have a larger cache size which will help with everything you do.

    Here's an open box X4 940 (3.0G / 6M) for $100 Newegg.com - Open Box: AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition Deneb 3.0GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Processor
    Or a brand new X4 925 (2.8G / 6M) for $130 Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X4 925 Deneb 2.8GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor

    If you're looking for power and processing capabilities, you're going to be much better off getting a processor with a larger cache. It'll serve you much better than the equivalent Athlon II X4 w/ a 2M L2.

    EDIT: Just noticed you said you were gaming. You should know that beyond the processor speed, you also need to really think about your graphics card. Graphics cards are the most important part of a gaming system. Don't skimp on whatever you buy. Personally, if you want to play all of the newer games at decent settings and frame rates you'll need a GTX 260 or it's equivalent from ATI. You might be able to get away with a 9800 GTX but Id recommend the 260 due to the fact that the memory bandwidth is so much higher.
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  3. Posts : 3,487
    Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual boot
       #3

    The Phenom would be the best bang for your buck. Larger cache = better performance. Stay away from the Black Edition unless you plan to OC the chip and have very good cooling, or it's on sale cheap. The price/performance ratio for the BE isn't as good as the locked model, and you pay a premium for the unlocked multi. Overclocking just by the multi alone also won't give you much of a real world boost compared to a system wide OC. You'll get some pretty numbers in synthetic benchmarks, but the difference with real use might not be as dramatic as you might think.
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  4. Posts : 21
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64
    Thread Starter
       #4

    notsograymatter said:
    EDIT: Just noticed you said you were gaming. You should know that beyond the processor speed, you also need to really think about your graphics card. Graphics cards are the most important part of a gaming system. Don't skimp on whatever you buy. Personally, if you want to play all of the newer games at decent settings and frame rates you'll need a GTX 260 or it's equivalent from ATI. You might be able to get away with a 9800 GTX but Id recommend the 260 due to the fact that the memory bandwidth is so much higher.
    Oh I've already done that, I'm going with a GT 240, even though its a bit lower end, it's enough for what I want to use it for.
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  5. Posts : 1,083
    Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit
       #5

    notsograymatter said:
    Personally, I'd recommend a Phenom II X4 if you really want quad core. You'll get a million different suggestions here, some say that you can overclock the crappier (Athlon) processors, others say you should just get a dual core.

    If you want the power of quad core, you might as well get one with a decent cache size. Granted, you can overclock the slower processors, but I think you'll have much better luck if you buy a Phenom II X4 at a little lower speed than an Athlon II X4 and overclock the Phenom. The Phenom will have a larger cache size which will help with everything you do.

    Here's an open box X4 940 (3.0G / 6M) for $100 Newegg.com - Open Box: AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition Deneb 3.0GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Processor
    Or a brand new X4 925 (2.8G / 6M) for $130 Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X4 925 Deneb 2.8GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor

    If you're looking for power and processing capabilities, you're going to be much better off getting a processor with a larger cache. It'll serve you much better than the equivalent Athlon II X4 w/ a 2M L2.

    EDIT: Just noticed you said you were gaming. You should know that beyond the processor speed, you also need to really think about your graphics card. Graphics cards are the most important part of a gaming system. Don't skimp on whatever you buy. Personally, if you want to play all of the newer games at decent settings and frame rates you'll need a GTX 260 or it's equivalent from ATI. You might be able to get away with a 9800 GTX but Id recommend the 260 due to the fact that the memory bandwidth is so much higher.
    I agree. I have a Phenom II X4 3.0GHz 945. Stay away from the X2 and X3. You'll read that you can "unlock the extra cores" on those processors to turn them into quad-cores. AMD locks them because they're really X4's with defective cores, which you're not supposed to have access to.

    Anyways, the Phenom II X4 is the top of the line AMD and I can vouch for it. It's an amazing processor with loads of options, and it does not slow down one bit. I was able to run 4 VMs (Windows XP, Ubuntu, Windows 7, Windows Vista) at the same time, WHILE playing Modern Warfare (just for kicks), and it only used about 11% of the processor. Any owner of this processor can tell you how great it is.
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  6. Posts : 759
    Windows 7 Enterprise x64
       #6

    Product FRED said:
    Stay away from the X2 and X3. You'll read that you can "unlock the extra cores" on those processors to turn them into quad-cores. AMD locks them because they're really X4's with defective cores, which you're not supposed to have access to.
    Huh? Care to explain?

    Product FRED said:
    Anyways, the Phenom II X4 is the top of the line AMD and I can vouch for it.
    What about the new 6 core CPU?
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  7. Posts : 1,083
    Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit
       #7

    MadMaxData said:
    Product FRED said:
    Stay away from the X2 and X3. You'll read that you can "unlock the extra cores" on those processors to turn them into quad-cores. AMD locks them because they're really X4's with defective cores, which you're not supposed to have access to.
    Huh? Care to explain?

    Product FRED said:
    Anyways, the Phenom II X4 is the top of the line AMD and I can vouch for it.
    What about the new 6 core CPU?
    In regard to your first query, read this. It explains everything: AMD Phenom II Core Unlocking Guide for X2 550BE / X3 710 & 720BE - Overclock.net - Overclocking.net

    Like all manufacturing processes, chip fabrication is no different. There are always parts which don’t make the quality cut. In the case of the Phenom II Quad cores, these parts may have defective cores or cache. Rather than throwing these defective Quad cores out, AMD decided to repackage these chips as Dual cores or Tri core processors. It was a win-win scenario for AMD. They would sell these processors at a cheaper price to recover costs and also minimize wasted parts.
    And I wasn't aware the x6's were released. At this point, you won't need one since you won't have a use for the extra two cores. Besides, I'm working with the processors he told us to choose from.
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  8. Posts : 3,487
    Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual boot
       #8

    I wouldn't put a lot of stock in unlocking ANY core.
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  9. Posts : 1,083
    Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit
       #9

    Just grab a Phenom II X4 945 or better and you'll be set. Don't bother with Athlons, X2s, or X3s.
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  10. Posts : 759
    Windows 7 Enterprise x64
       #10

    Product FRED said:
    And I wasn't aware the x6's were released. At this point, you won't need one since you won't have a use for the extra two cores. Besides, I'm working with the processors he told us to choose from.
    I won't need anything other than what I'm currently running for awhile [socket 939 AMD Athlon X2]. It goes just as fast as I can click. But when I eventually upgrade to a socket AM3 board, I'll probably get a 6 core AMD. Should be nice and cheap by then.

    Mellon Head said:
    I wouldn't put a lot of stock in unlocking ANY core.
    My dual core came unlocked from the factory. What's wrong with an unlocked multiplier? I don't overclock to begin with, but it's nice to have that ability in the event I change my mind.
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