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Windows 7: help with USB HDD

08 May 2009   #11
macgyver2

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

the case I am using came with a 250GB drive from Toshiba same drive series just a size difference between the two. and I do all kind of strange stuff to the 250 like partitions, testing new encryption, testing bitlock from win 7 etc.


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08 May 2009   #12
johngalt

 

I bet even money that if you attached the drive to XP or an older OS, or Linux you'll be able to format it.

Windows 7 supports the Trusted Platform management system, and I bet that it recognizes that the drive came from a BIOS locked machine - and is respecting the wishes of that machine.
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08 May 2009   #13
macgyver2

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

don't remember seeing that, let me unhook my current drive and see if I can see that
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09 May 2009   #14
macgyver2

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt View Post
I bet even money that if you attached the drive to XP or an older OS, or Linux you'll be able to format it.

Windows 7 supports the Trusted Platform management system, and I bet that it recognizes that the drive came from a BIOS locked machine - and is respecting the wishes of that machine.
that's a great idea, ah whish I could trade out the drive in this mini would make this so much easier, but I should be able to get this machine to boot into something other then 7. wonder if I accessed it in a virtual XP if I could do it. trying to figure out what I have and the best way to use it to run the machine in XP or linux.
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09 May 2009   #15
johngalt

 

It might not in a virtual machine if the host OS is Win 7 - just make your install drive a bit smaller and install Linux on it or something...or even XP....

Even better - boot with a GParted CD and see if *it* can partition the drive....
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09 May 2009   #16
macgyver2

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I tried Gparted and not sure how long I have to wait for it to see the drives but my first run it was scanning for 5 mins and did nothing just sat there. Going to try again and let it sit longer and see if anything happens. I am using Gparted from a memory card in the built in reader and not sure if thats an issue or not. Anyway going to see what I can do since its not 2am now.
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09 May 2009   #17
johngalt

 

Is the GParted being *booted* or are you trying to run it from inside Windows?
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09 May 2009   #18
macgyver2

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

gprated was run from a SD card in the built in reader of the HP mini 1035. From all the software I have tested so far nothing can get the access needed over a USB connection. So until I get access to a desktop it looks like I am stuck.
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09 May 2009   #19
johngalt

 

Get a GParted *bootable* ISO and use it instead. Burn it to a disc and boot off of it.

http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
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09 May 2009   #20
macgyver2

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

sorry didn't add that I booted from it. what ever protection is on this drive is whats stopping me along with the limitations of the USB connection I have to work over. I also don't want to recover anything so deleting everything even writing a new mbr would be nice if I could access it at all with my limitations.

Basicly I the this list of hardware to work with"

HP Mini 1035NR running windows 7RC
60GB drive, 2 USB ports, 1 SD reader built in, 2 GB ram, the other specs don't really matter.
2GB SD card
250GB USB HDD (same series as the 320 I am workin on)
USB DVD burner
only have blank DVD's to work with
one 512MB USB flash drive.

OK the computer this drive came from was a toshiba laptop fairly new at least no more then 2 years old. the computer itself was damaged while the drive was removed. the man who had it didn't know what to do with the now spare parts so he gave me the drive, ram and anything else I could salvage which after testing was the CPU and I think the wfi card. the screen and mobo were both broken beyond repair. He was trying to add a 3G card into the laptop which didn't fit and he still forced the case back together and broke it. I am selling the other parts as I have no need for them but would love to make this drive usable again. My fear is that this drive won't be accessible again without the laptop it came from but of course no warrently with him breaking it so its upto me to experiment on it until I gain access and wipe it clean and give it to me wife or I wait until next month when my new desktop gets here and I can hook it directly to a mobo and clear the HDD lock and use then the wife gets it.

I posted in the chillout room that if anyone lived in Orlando they and they wanted to help me out with access to a desktop to contact me but so far only been offered suggestions and one offer if paid to fix it. As I made a living for 10+ years recovering evidence off computers to stop kiddy porn I have the software tools (that don't work over USB) and the hardware (currently working on a long term decrypt of aprox 800GB of photos,careful how you protect your files, this woman took all the family photos and converted them into jpeg and then for safty encrypted each single file needless to say its taking a very long time to recover them but she is willing to pay so ) so I don't have access to that until its finished. I would list the software I have tested but its been about 12 so far and all have the same issue about USB.

It would be nice from a tech point of view to be able to get beyond the protection even over a USB connection. My question is it a limit of the physical connection or the USB drivers? and how can I get around that short coming as this could be a useful tool in forensics with all the USB drives around these days instead of the adapters and having to open up the desktop all the time.
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