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Windows 7: Memory - 6 GB, 12 GB, 18 GB

24 Jun 2010   #11
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

There is no trolling here.

The best place to possibly find this info,, might be the manual.

Different model boards do act differently, it probably depends on how this board was developed, what features were given. It does support triple channel. but maybe, maybe not in the way you want it to.
Stating the obvious,,, Otherwise, someone else would have to own that board and be doing what you are doing to actuall answer the question. And at that price for the board, there may not be many.


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25 Jun 2010   #12
fseal

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

Yeah look up the manual on line. Do what it says.

Even if you can mix and match modules for double/tripple channel, I'd stick with putting in exactly the same ram in the same configuration in all slots. There are SO MANY people that come here with memory problems. I wouldn't push the weird combinations.

If you have an i7 900 series and a tripple channel MB then put in two banks of tripple channel matched 6 gig packages and have a nice solid 12 gig system.

And if you DO actually USE your computer, 12 gig is sweet. (12 gig plus an Intel 160gig G2 SSD is even sweeter of course)
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25 Jun 2010   #13
cad3

Windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

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Trolls? Considering these guys are only here to assist, that's not very nice.
I do apologize. Though, previous to this quoted post, aside from 1 person posting a link, there wasn't much helpful info - more speculation as to what I might be doing. Or how unnecessary it all was (without knowing how or why it was being used).

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You may very well end up reverting to dual or single channel with the proposed configuration?
Uhm... The example looks like it's only got 4 slots on the board. I've got 6. I guess I'm a little confused. I'm doing matching triples (slots 1,3,5). I'm hoping to match speed and latency but change size for slots 2,4,6.

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However, as has been stated, and/or implied, if you're using up 4GB's doing nothing, something is amiss.
AGREED! But when I look at what I have running (IE - 1 window with 7 tabs, Chrome - 3-5 windows with 10-20 tabs each - still shouldn't suck down 4 GB, 4-8 explorer windows, Task Manager, Solitaire, Raid controller, Steam) and pull up task manager - it shows 4 GB consumed, and the largest Memory Process is IE at 170 MB... I'm not really sure where to go to chase down the... leaks?

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Yeah look up the manual on line. Do what it says.
FWIW, I did look at the manual before I posted. I consider it very bad form to not at least attempt 'token' effort before asking online. Page 17 of the manual is all about what order to place the dimms if you have only 2, or 3, or 4, or 5... Says nothing about worrying about CAS latency, or how that may impact the system, nor about how Win 7 x64 Pro deals with memory allocations and addressing.

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Even if you can mix and match modules for double/tripple channel, I'd stick with putting in exactly the same ram in the same configuration in all slots. There are SO MANY people that come here with memory problems. I wouldn't push the weird combinations.
I know; and that's why I'm here, asking. (worried).

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If you have an i7 900 series and a tripple channel MB then put in two banks of tripple channel matched 6 gig packages and have a nice solid 12 gig system.
That is the back up plan, but I have a friend shooting w/ medium format digital cameras and he's pushing his system from 12 to 24 because of how big the files sizes get and how long it takes to manipulate in CS.

Stupid as it may be... I was thinking I'd like to get 12 GB, but that I'd just get 12 GB MORE. I'd rather not throw away the 6 GB I currently have, hence the desire to go to 18 GB.

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And if you DO actually USE your computer, 12 gig is sweet. (12 gig plus an Intel 160gig G2 SSD is even sweeter of course)
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6 GB isn't horrible; though it could be a little faster at times. The 160 would have been nicer in the system but was much worse on the wallet


Everyone I've talked to has said match it on all 6 slots and that is what I think I'm going to do. No one has said you can't do 18 GB total; but it seems that no one really knows the RAMifications (har har).

Thanks to all the helpful people on the thread. You guys rock!
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25 Jun 2010   #14
fseal

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

Hehe

I do tons of raw image work in photoshop, and also use Blender (3d program), poser and a 3d game that I am developing content for and frequently 3 or more of them (and other tools) all at the same time in 12 gig. It's fairly comfortable. Adding 12 to 6 /might/ be just fine, especially if you can get the same exact ram type and the motherboard manual /should/ specify if it can or not. Mine had like 6 pages dedicated to verified memory modules and combinations that were KNOWN to work with the motherboard.
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25 Jun 2010   #15
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by cad3 View Post
My question is:

Can I buy Kingston HyperX DDR3 Three sticks of 4 GB (1600 CAS 9) and put them in slots 2,4,6 and having 18 GB, or is the size difference an issue?

I know you are suppose to have matching pairs (or in this case triples). But does that extend to the other set of triples if the speed and CAS latency are the same?
To answer the question...

You never want to mix and match memory. Your best bet is find a matching set like these...

Newegg.com - OCZ Gold 12GB (6 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Model OCZ3G1600LV12GS

Newegg.com - CORSAIR XMS3 12GB (6 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model HX3X12G1600C9 G

Newegg.com - CORSAIR XMS3 12GB (6 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model HX3X12G1333C9

Newegg.com - Kingston 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM ECC Registered DDR3 1333 System Specific Memory Model KTD-PE313K3/12G

It's always best to get your memory in kits as they are matched from the manufacture for performance and compatibility.

"IF" you must mix, always try and get the exact set(s). The other thing to keep in mind is voltage and timings, they need to be the same as well, otherwise you run into performance issues. In some instances it could make the system run worse when you mix memory, even though the system has more.

Just something to think about. Also, I personally don't think you'll need more than 12 gig as you're really not going to see that big of a performance jump from six to 12 so....

If speed is really that much of a factor to you than maybe you should look at an SSD drive.

My two cents.
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25 Jun 2010   #16
Fumz

7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by cad3 View Post
Uhm... The example looks like it's only got 4 slots on the board. I've got 6. I guess I'm a little confused. I'm doing matching triples (slots 1,3,5). I'm hoping to match speed and latency but change size for slots 2,4,6.

AGREED! But when I look at what I have running (IE - 1 window with 7 tabs, Chrome - 3-5 windows with 10-20 tabs each - still shouldn't suck down 4 GB, 4-8 explorer windows, Task Manager, Solitaire, Raid controller, Steam) and pull up task manager - it shows 4 GB consumed, and the largest Memory Process is IE at 170 MB... I'm not really sure where to go to chase down the... leaks?
True, they don't show a very good example of triple channel, but they do define what's required for triple channel. I'm not 100% sure if you can run asynchronously or not, which is why I, and others, have not said so. It would be terrible to be wrong here considering the price you're going to pay for the RAM.
Perhaps you can get the info you need from this, if you've not already read it: Intel® Desktop Board DX58SO — Technical product specification for DX58SO

If you're using any java based apps, or have java plug-ins in your browser, that could very well be what's eating up all your RAM. There's no reason at all for it to be so high given what you've got open.

Apparently there's a problem with Windows 7 and Java, either on Sun's end or Microsoft's, which neither party have yet to address or acknowledge. They fixed the issue in Vista, so it's a mystery why it's popped up again in 7?
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25 Jun 2010   #17
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

His system specs says he has a Gigabyte motherboard - GA-X58A-UD7
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25 Jun 2010   #18
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

If you feel that 6 GB isn't quite enough, why not get the 12 GB kit and then sell your 6 GB kit? I'm sure you'd get a good price for it, and it would help offest a lot of the cost of the 12 GB kit.

In the past, with dual channel systems, as long as the memory in each channel matched, you were fine. You could easily have a system with 2x512 in one channel and 2x1GB in another. I'd assume it would be the same way with DDR3 setups.
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25 Jun 2010   #19
Fumz

7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
His system specs says he has a Gigabyte motherboard - GA-X58A-UD7
Yes, but the Intel link provides information about the chipset. Available memory configurations are going to be the same no matter who makes the board.
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25 Jun 2010   #20
Zepher

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

I would buy 3 sticks of 4GB and if they don't work alongside your 3 sticks of 2GB, then sell the 2GB sticks and buy a second set of 4GB sticks and have 24GB.
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